Burning the USA Flag

[CriticalStinker]

Prosecuting Burning of The American Flag – The White House




Okay leftists and Trump haters, here's your prime rib.  Something I disagree with Trump on.

He wants to make flag burning illegal.

Now I hate flag burners, as a vet it bothers me.

BUT, I respect the 1st Amendment enough to let douche-twinkies burn it.

Your thoughts?

While flag code isn’t law, it is the code in which we’re supposed to treat and honor the flag.

For decades, it’s been bastardized. Used in advertising, altered, printed on disposable goods like napkins.

I don’t support those actions, nor do I support burning the flag for some sort of protest. But me not supporting those things doesn’t make it illegal. 

Freedom should exist so long as it doesn’t infringe on the rights of others. If someone’s expression just offends me, or makes me uncomfortable, I don’t have the right to stop someone. 

That said, the trains are off the rails. And that’s not just because we can’t burn a flag, it’s because we’ve allowed ourselves to become fractured at any societal fabric. It’s not just one ideology or group, everyone just went bonkers, and it’s been constant tit for tats between many people. Anything we see now isn’t “the problem”, it’s symptoms. Though I’d be curious to trace it all back, I’ve tried, but can’t.

[Bootless]

Prosecuting Burning of The American Flag – The White House

Okay leftists and Trump haters, here's your prime rib.
Your thoughts?

The first U.S. Supreme Court case about flag desecration was  Halter v. Nebraska (1907), they ruled that putting a picture of the flag on a beer bottle was very bad thing to do.

Spence v. Washington (1974) A collage student protesting the 1970 Kent State Massacre put tape on a flag to make a peace sign. Spence was convicted of violating a state law prohibiting the placement of any “word, figure, mark, picture, design, drawing or advertisement” on the flag. Supreme Court overruled.

I just wonder about that figure, mark, picture on that flag I posted above.

If a person owns one and decides that the picture added to the flag is degrading the flag, is burning it a sign of upholding the dignity of Old Glory?

[Vermilion]

I wish we could burn the Pride flag as easily as the evil leftists burn the USA flag.

I remember when people got arrested, not too long ago, for doing a burnout in the street.
A rainbow colored street.
Peak madness.

[UltraBudgie]

Isn't this pollution and a public safety hazard? I'm not sure this is an effective act of protest. In the past things like this could ratchet up polarization to make a point, but I think that dial's been set to 11 for a while now. Now all it can do is incite violence perhaps? And spread microplastics. Who knows what's in that waterproof coating.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Prosecuting Burning of The American Flag – The White House




Okay leftists and Trump haters, here's your prime rib.  Something I disagree with Trump on.

He wants to make flag burning illegal.

Now I hate flag burners, as a vet it bothers me.

BUT, I respect the 1st Amendment enough to let douche-twinkies burn it.

Your thoughts?

Great...

He's just triggered and baited EXTRA flag burning.

Now people that wouldn't normally care enough to do it will burn away just to defy Trump.

It almost seems like an excuse to arrest the people he triggers most. Like everyone that goes to protests specifically to burn flags now can go to ze cages.

Knowing his motivation, he probably wants to use martyrs against themselves. With it really being a reverse-psychology prompt for extra Flag-Burning that will make his biggest haters look that much more purge-worthy.

[AlroyFarms]

Prosecuting Burning of The American Flag – The White House




Okay leftists and Trump haters, here's your prime rib.  Something I disagree with Trump on.

He wants to make flag burning illegal.

Now I hate flag burners, as a vet it bothers me.

BUT, I respect the 1st Amendment enough to let douche-twinkies burn it.

Your thoughts?

I'm really torn. This isn't exactly like statue destruction where it's art and private property to be a monument of history.

A flag is an effigy of an idea, so if people want to make a visual statement I guess that's their right, even if I wouldn't do it myself. It also has a very specific meaning other than one of 'protest.' It's a pretty universal symbol of conquest or declaration of war.

[Bootless]

Great...

He's just triggered and baited EXTRA flag burning.

Now people that wouldn't normally care enough to do it will burn away just to defy Trump.

It almost seems like an excuse to arrest the people he triggers most. Like everyone that goes to protests specifically to burn flags now can go to ze cages.

Knowing his motivation, he probably wants to use martyrs against themselves. With it really being a reverse-psychology prompt for extra Flag-Burning that will make his biggest haters look that much more purge-worthy.

Yes.
It has begun.
Parkrose Permaculture posted a video last night. It's been shuffled off to (private - must sign in)
American Hero: veteran arrested in DC for exercising protected speech
Funny, I just went to her channel @ParkrosePermaculture and clicked the link from there and it played fine. Demonetized, of course.

So yeah, she seems to think that it's people's duty to defy the EO.
I'm not going to DC, "Hell no! We won't go!"

[andy06shake]

My thoughts are is a stupid thing to do.

But the right to freedom and expression is important.

And that right is there to protect even the idiots, along with everyone else.

The fellow who was arrested for doing so today is a veteran expressing his anger at the current administration's antics.

If he fought for his nation, he's kind of earned the right to burn a flag in protest.   

A lot more than the idiot issuing executive orders, who can't fight sleep. 

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L8rYQKFcPuE

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h...rcna226727

[Bootless]

It's a pretty universal symbol of conquest or declaration of war.

That's the universal sign of conquest. Raising a flag.
Another one would be cutting down someone else's flag from their pole and running yours up instead.

[Harte]

My thoughts are is a stupid thing to do.

But the right to freedom and expression is important.

And that right is there to protect even the idiots, along with everyone else.

The fellow who was arrested for doing so today is a veteran expressing his anger at the current administration's antics.

If he fought for his nation, he's kind of earned the right to burn a flag in protest.   

A lot more than the idiot issuing executive orders, who can't fight sleep. 

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L8rYQKFcPuE

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h...rcna226727

He was arrested for setting a fire in a federal park, which is illegal.
You don't want to get arrested for flag burning, don't burn your flag in a federal park.

Harte