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BREAKING: Russian units broke into Pokrovsk
#61
(11-20-2025, 08:11 PM)RickyD Wrote: I have thats why I disagree with you...

What you just posted is called propaganda for the purpose of persuading their own citizens to back them against Russia and also not push back against more funding in Ukraine as well as more spending on their own militaries. Do you really think Russia wants to widen their war based on how taxing it has been against just Ukraine? What would make Russia think they would win a conflict into NATO european territory based on what we are seeing im the current war? I don't think there is any answer to either of those questions that backs what "EU Officals" are claiming. Any fight between Russia and NATO would ultimately involve nukes...no one wants that...no one sane that is.

The only insane one is Putin by threatening everyone under the Sun with nukes. It is only common sense to understand why NATO and the U.S. and others are beefing up their military and restarting nuclear testing as the US has done. 

Putin chose invasion/war over negotiation under the guise of lack of security/perceived threats (and one could say the same of Israel) of his country. I see all these wars as money-making/land grabs and ways to maintain power indefinitely. The billionaires (now trillionaires) run everything, they are pay off these leaders to do their bidding and are easily bought.


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"Military experts insisted Putin has vowed to use nuclear weapons on the West for meddling in his ongoing war against Ukraine – and warned of dire consequences if the U.S. or Germany aided the country with long-range missiles.
 Putin labeled Germany's plans to give Ukraine missiles as a "direct armed conflict" with his country and said NATO nations were "accomplices in their hostilities.""

EXCLUSIVE: 'Everyone in America Should Be Worried' — Putin's Nuclear 'Doomsday Scenario' Sparks Panic as Trump Demands U.S. Nuclear Tests
"The only journey is the one within."
#62
Seems like Trump's "Peace Plan" was written by the Kremlin!

Why on Earth should Ukraine agree to drastically reduce the size of it's military?

That would be suicide.

Seems like the old fool does indeed just listen to the last person who spoke to him.

That, or the FSB really might have some "leverage" on him.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
#63
(11-21-2025, 11:23 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Seems like Trump's "Peace Plan" was written by the Kremlin!



Could have something to do with Putin having a certain picture or video of Trump and “Bubba”.
#64
(11-21-2025, 11:41 AM)3rdrockfrmsun Wrote: Could have something to do with Putin having a certain picture or video of Trump and “Bubba”.



Who or what is "Bubba"? Spin
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
#65
It looks like Putin has told Trump it's his deal or nothing after refusing the last one, and Donald's fallen for his bullsh*t (again).

Maybe 'Bubba' is gonna' help Don swallow it!!   Lol Lol Lol



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#66
(11-21-2025, 11:45 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Who or what is "Bubba"? Spin

Could be—could be Clinton, alright? Could be, I don’t know, could be a horse. Could be a beautiful horse, tremendous horse. Nobody knows, nobody really knows. And, you know, I’ll be honest with you—I don’t know either. I really don’t. But it could be either one, maybe both, who knows? People are talking about it—smart people, very smart people—some say both, some say something else entirely. Could be someone else, could be nobody, maybe, maybe not. And then you have The Big Beautiful Bill—everyone’s talking about him, huge guy, tremendous influence, you wouldn’t believe it. It’s a big question, huge question, everyone’s asking. I’ve seen things, you wouldn’t believe it, the things I’ve seen. Could be huge, could be tiny, maybe medium, I don’t know. It could be, it could be, honestly, it could be anything. And we’ll see, we’ll find out, believe me. But right now, I can’t tell you, I really can’t. Nobody really knows, and that’s the truth.

 Rolleyes
#67
(11-21-2025, 11:45 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Who or what is "Bubba"? Spin

Perhaps a transactional perk for Trump so he will do what Putin wants?  Lol No other perks seem to do the trick.
"The only journey is the one within."
#68
This latest 'peace plan' is just a repackaging of Putin's demands from back in 2022, and should be treated with the disgust it deserves.
Trump had finally ratchet up the sanctions on Russia and it's allies, which will eventually have an impact.  It's taken nearly four years and several hundred thousand Russian deaths for Putin's forces to take around 20% of Ukraine. Russia can't continue it's pace of attack with the latest sanctions and Ukraine finally being allowed to attack further into Russia, 

If Trump takes this offer and forces Ukraine into a corner, he's either dump or really is under Putin's thumb.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#69
(11-20-2025, 08:34 PM)quintessentone Wrote: The only insane one is Putin by threatening everyone under the Sun with nukes. It is only common sense to understand why NATO and the U.S. and others are beefing up their military and restarting nuclear testing as the US has done. 

Putin chose invasion/war over negotiation under the guise of lack of security/perceived threats (and one could say the same of Israel) of his country. I see all these wars as money-making/land grabs and ways to maintain power indefinitely. The billionaires (now trillionaires) run everything, they are pay off these leaders to do their bidding and are easily bought.


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"Military experts insisted Putin has vowed to use nuclear weapons on the West for meddling in his ongoing war against Ukraine – and warned of dire consequences if the U.S. or Germany aided the country with long-range missiles.
 Putin labeled Germany's plans to give Ukraine missiles as a "direct armed conflict" with his country and said NATO nations were "accomplices in their hostilities.""

EXCLUSIVE: 'Everyone in America Should Be Worried' — Putin's Nuclear 'Doomsday Scenario' Sparks Panic as Trump Demands U.S. Nuclear Tests


And yet the lines keep moving in Russia's favor. Ukraine is losing generations of men. The politicians and generals along with their cronies keeping stuffing their pockets. 

The reason they label these types of weapons as direct involvement is because it takes that supplying nation to handle the targeting...no one is giving Ukraine classified topography or links to their space assets to Ukraine. What would you call it if Russia gave Iran their highend missiles that Iran has no assets to target themselves...meaning Russia was doing the targeting? If the tables were turned the US would say the same Russia has been...but I doubt the US would have the restraint to not attack the nation supplying those arms.

You seem to have swallowed the government narrative hook line and sinker...but just as with many other posters here you pick and choose when you wanna call the US gov or any other liars. One day they are liars the next they are for sure telling the truth with no alterior motives...now thats insane!
#70
The fog in the area has been very dense preventing drone surveillance and attacks yet Russia is bleeding for ever foot they claim. 





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