Aerospace "Secret" Classification Levels

[Wild Bill]

Unless you are a cleared individual wherever you work is breaking SOP badly and has the laziest SSO on the planet

My work took me to some very interesting places over the decades , Yes I had been cleared to work at them or been lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time in others , I joked at the old place with a former military man how some people can work for decades at some buildings and never see a lot of it because / security etc ,Yet within days I would be I  parts of buildings that a person had not been in 40 years of working there .

As I stated the glaring much ups i have seen happen and lax security protocols at a few places was interesting ,, invisibility in my job is a hard hat and a visibility vest   ikyn , nobody pays attention to a dude like me who really gets to see behind the curtain in some places , I am like a real life ghost !! .

And when it comes to the world of locks  , they only keep honest people out and passwords 8x0 ring a bell lol  .

[Zaphod58]

My work took me to some very interesting places over the decades , Yes I had been cleared to work at them or been lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time in others , I joked at the old place with a former military man how some people can work for decades at some buildings and never see a lot of it because / security etc ,Yet within days I would be I  parts of buildings that a person had not been in 40 years of working there .

As I stated the glaring much ups i have seen happen and lax security protocols at a few places was interesting ,, invisibility in my job is a hard hat and a visibility vest   ikyn , nobody pays attention to a dude like me who really gets to see behind the curtain in some places , I am like a real life ghost !! .

And when it comes to the world of locks  , they only keep honest people out and passwords 8x0 ring a bell lol  .

Talk to people that have done networking for the military. They were ripping their hair out for years, because they'd find networks with no passwords, the default password, or the usual crap that you aren't supposed to use for passwords. Trying to teach them network security was like pulling teeth out of a pissed off bear with a toothache.

[Wild Bill]

Talk to people that have done networking for the military. They were ripping their hair out for years, because they'd find networks with no passwords, the default password, or the usual crap that you aren't supposed to use for passwords. Trying to teach them network security was like pulling teeth out of a pissed off bear with a toothache.

The number of people in all fields who write the passwords on stick it notes or in unlocked desk drawers is staggering and i have notice in some buildings years later that security codes on doors have never been changed , I had a bank manager flip out years ago because I could remember all the access codes for the place .

leaving a young  me in a D.U.M.B with loads of reading material at hand was also interesting   , As we're a few other places where the staff were only too happy to show you how things worked especially if you have a little bit of knowledge on the subject or seem interested in what they do , but in general people are way to trusting or downright stupid in a lot of fields where the opposite should be true

[Signal Witch]

The number of people in all fields who write the passwords on stick it notes or in unlocked desk drawers is staggering and i have notice in some buildings years later that security codes on doors have never been changed , I had a bank manager flip out years ago because I could remember all the access codes for the place .

I don’t doubt that. I’ve seen some places where security gets pretty casual, but at the higher-end sites it’s a whole different culture. People know what they’re handling and take it seriously. Codes rotate, access is layered, and every step is tracked. You won’t see sticky notes with passwords lying around such places. It’s a much more disciplined environment.

[Wild Bill]

I don’t doubt that. I’ve seen some places where security gets pretty casual, but at the higher-end sites it’s a whole different culture. People know what they’re handling and take it seriously. Codes rotate, access is layered, and every step is tracked. You won’t see sticky notes with passwords lying around such places. It’s a much more disciplined environment.

Back when I was a school kid the classes I hated I skipped easily by walking around with a piece of paper pretending I was on some errand lol , not much has changed I could blag my way into a lot of places if I had to , And in my job I got the master key for access in buildings  lol having the nerve and the bravado goes a long way sometimes and someone like me people do not look at twice if ever .

it is a standing joke what you can get away with with a hard hat and a viz vest    , I did get a visit 13 years ago from HM government for what I talked about in a forum , the riot act was read to me ? .

The 30 year rule did not apply to the product I was talking about nuff said ,

[Maxmars]

I promise... there are some places that are as secure as you could possibly imagine.... amazing ... too bad few ever make 'patches' for 'operations' because they are 'not' connected to any of them while simultaneously 'connected' to all of them...  most I ever got was a mug... but I was very low on the totem pole then.

[quintessentone]

Back when I was a school kid the classes I hated I skipped easily by walking around with a piece of paper pretending I was on some errand lol , not much has changed I could blag my way into a lot of places if I had to , And in my job I got the master key for access in buildings  lol having the nerve and the bravado goes a long way sometimes and someone like me people do not look at twice if ever .

it is a standing joke what you can get away with with a hard hat and a viz vest    , I did get a visit 13 years ago from HM government for what I talked about in a forum , the riot act was read to me ? .

The 30 year rule did not apply to the product I was talking about nuff said ,

I understand what you experienced. Riot act. LOL

Almost everyone here will ignore this post.

[Maxmars]

Not being a subject like you...

I can tell you I often had to deal with the fall out of someone being "read the riot act."

It becomes easy to weed out the bullies from the professionals after such events...

[quintessentone]

My work took me to some very interesting places over the decades , Yes I had been cleared to work at them or been lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time in others , I joked at the old place with a former military man how some people can work for decades at some buildings and never see a lot of it because / security etc ,Yet within days I would be I  parts of buildings that a person had not been in 40 years of working there .

As I stated the glaring much ups i have seen happen and lax security protocols at a few places was interesting ,, invisibility in my job is a hard hat and a visibility vest   ikyn , nobody pays attention to a dude like me who really gets to see behind the curtain in some places , I am like a real life ghost !! .

And when it comes to the world of locks  , they only keep honest people out and passwords 8x0 ring a bell lol  .

I believe you.

Undercover dude sees it all. Ha ha What does it all mean? It means nothing. We refuse to see.

[Wild Bill]

I understand what you experienced. Riot act. LOL

Almost everyone here will ignore this post.

It was the speed at what happened that shocked me then , maybe 5 or so hours passed and I got a visit pointing out what I signed and to STFU about it .

That was nothing compared to when covid hit , in the UK there was a television advert for a mattress topper ( Hand made in Italy ) was the big selling point , I phoned the number for a laugh and the operator on the other end thought they had another idiot hooked , I asked about the hand made in Italy claim , Then pointed out that it was where covid was hitting bad accordingto all the news channels .

Within a hour or less when that commercial rolled out again the hand made in Italy bit had been cut from the commercial ?  If people think little websites are not monitored they are truly daft , I remember at the old place a mod being shocked about how quick they had got a take down order when a airframe blueprint was put up lol .

And we were discussing the gutting of the white house in the 1940s  and refit on a forum , the pictures were on the net for decades , I think it was the FBI who came in and siezed them and classified them thereafter