AI Bot Accounts - things to look for.

[Kurokage]

To be clear, I have seen many likely paid or incentivized shills come and go on ATS and here, but this was the only time I think I found and actual non-human account that was trying to pass as human and not some spammy garbage bot.

I'm not trying to argue here, but during my time on ATS, I'd seen a lot of people scream shill purely because the person disagreed with their opinion. Sometimes people get so caught up in there conspiracy that thats all they see, and they whole heartedly believe that they know the 'real' truth. Anything else must be either ignorance or someone out to get them, a shill.

Both here and ATS wasn't really that massive of a site to have any real impact on anything of consequence. Other than possible training, why go to such trouble? Now Facebook, and twitter where millions can influenced, then sure.

[Halfswede]

People get paid to shill? ..... lol..... where does one sign up for this job I could use the money. Shills'R'us.com I think I could shill if I tried. Having someone pick the side I debate on I cant even choose what im having for dinner. Someone ask chatgpt7000 if shilling is profitable maybe we can form some kind of shill firm hahaha

All joking aside does ToS even apply concerning bots 0.o

I would say the vast majority of paid shilling (is that like paid with shillings?) comes from overseas or is financed from overseas and run out of domestic 'phone warehouses'.  There's not so much point in location any more though because anything can be spoofed.

Don't forget the three-letter guys at Ft. XXX that pump mis/disinfo daily into the web.

As to ToS, it's a catch 22.  You can't accuse a bot, so ToS protects them unless staff see something.  The funny part is they have AI sniffers that are designed to catch bots, but the AI is continually being trained and every time someone says "AI has these 'tells', it adapts.  It sused to be you could spot a wumao 100 yds away with their obvious chinglish responses. Those days are no more.  Translate tools are very good.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

I would say the vast majority of paid shilling (is that like paid with shillings?) comes from overseas or is financed from overseas and run out of domestic 'phone warehouses'.  There's not so much point in location any more though because anything can be spoofed.

Don't forget the three-letter guys at Ft. XXX that pump mis/disinfo daily into the web.

As to ToS, it's a catch 22.  You can't accuse a bot, so ToS protects them unless staff see something.  The funny part is they have AI sniffers that are designed to catch bots, but the AI is continually being trained and every time someone says "AI has these 'tells', it adapts.  It sused to be you could spot a wumao 100 yds away with their obvious chinglish responses. Those days are no more.  Translate tools are very good.

Ask it crossword puzzle questions thats what budgie does
I saw bob metaphorically "shit the bed" one day when budgie did that
Funniest thing

[putnam6]

I like to believe the AI bot farmers have larger ponds to fish and f--- around in, but I could be wrong 

Of course, the wilder theory is AI bots are also a alien higher infinite intelligence and is trying to determine by interacting with the general public on a non-descriptive spin-off of a late 90s conspiracy site, if humanity is ready for the next age of enlightenment, so far, the consensus is not even close as humanity is mostly contrarian azzholes and one-trick ponies with a huge swathe of the public unhealthy obsessed with the so called King of Orange

and instead of advancing, we really need to go back to the Stone Age and relearn survival, communal, and social adaptability skills,

[ReturnofBroccoli]

I like to believe the AI bot farmers have larger ponds to fish and f--- around in, but I could be wrong 

Of course, the wilder theory is AI bots are also a alien higher infinite intelligence and is trying to determine by interacting with the general public on a non-descriptive spin-off of a late 90s conspiracy site, if humanity is ready for the next age of enlightenment, so far, the consensus is not even close as humanity is mostly contrarian azzholes and one-trick ponies with a huge swathe of the public unhealthy obsessed with the so called King of Orange

and instead of advancing, we really need to go back to the Stone Age and relearn survival, communal, and social adaptability skills,

*neeeiiiggghhh* I have more tricks than a diddy party

[Halfswede]

I'm not trying to argue here, but during my time ATS, I'd seen a lot of people scream shill purely because the person disagreed with their opinion. Sometimes people get so caught up in there conspiracy that thats all they see, and they whole heartedly believe that they know the 'real' truth. Anything else must be either ignorance or someone out to get them, a shill.

Both here and ATS wasn't really that massive of a site to have any real impact on anything of consequence. Other than possible training, why go to such trouble? Now Facebook, and twitter where millions can influenced, then sure.

ATS used to be quite a focal point of three-letter orgs.  Not so much in the last several years. For sure Facebook is thick with them, but believe it or not, smaller sites tend to have a lot of people searching for nuggets who are more likely to take them and share them with the world. Also, many of the bigger sites, REddit, FB etc. are heavily moderated from more of a censorship angle, so lots of people come to smaller arenas to get the 'real' info. If people are over the target of a real story, you will suddenly see a lot of slide threads and derailing seem to appear organically, but it's not at all. 

The CCP guidebook that was intercepted some years ago had very clear directives on how to join forums, become moderators, how to slide threads, how to deflect, etc. etc.  That one was used to train users in prisons to get time off per post basically. 

But to your point, 'shill' is often thrown around about as often as nazi.  It only muddies the waters for the actual shill to conitinue on relatively unmolested.

[rickymouse]

Are you guys talking about Bob here, his title is BOT on this site.  I don't think Bob is a BOTt though, I was kind of wondering what his title means here, there are the site owners, moderators, veterans, and others, but I only saw one person titled BOT

Maybe Bob is a BOT and they are not hiding it.... am curious what the title BOT means in the member area

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Are you guys talking about Bob here, his title is BOT on this site.  I don't think Bob is a BOTt though, I was kind of wondering what his title means here, there are the site owners, moderators, veterans, and others, but I only saw one person titled BOT

Maybe Bob is a BOT and they are not hiding it.... am curious what the title BOT means in the member area

The bob I am referring to can be found in the chatroom, its a chat bot alien persona

[Maxmars]

I have deliberately started using em-dashes—a vastly underrated punctuation mark—as a sort of contrarian reaction to the way LLMs spit them into everything. I've also started using footnotes¹ sometimes, as in the process I've upped my compose-key character-fu. It's sort of a "bah humbug, think what you want" to all the bot-witchhunting going on.

It's fun to fly against the wind.

¹ Like this!

I caution against reliance on "writing tools" (apps/programs/plugins) if you value your specific 'voice.'

I can guarantee that some of your favorite threads... wouldn't be.... if they were written under the constraints of 'writing tools.'  They are useful when you're stumped... but they are not a guiding light... you are the light.

Personally, I ended up running from them, I joked it was a tool for conformity for corporate robot readers. (.ca 20th century.)

(I've never seen a poem survive those tools.... lol)

But the truth is 'algorithms' nominally suffice for human use... but when it's sold it's presumed perfect... it is not.... it is not at all.

Create in freedom... refine to taste....  be at peace.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

I caution against reliance on "writing tools" (apps/programs/plugins) if you value your specific 'voice.'

I can guarantee that some of your favorite threads... wouldn't be.... if they were written under the constraints of 'writing tools.'  They are useful when you're stumped... but they are not a guiding light... you are the light.

Personally, I ended up running from them, I joked it was a tool for conformity for corporate robot readers. (.ca 20th century.)

(I've never seen a poem survive those tools.... lol)

But the truth is 'algorithms' nominally suffice for human use... but when it's sold it's presumed perfect... it is not.... it is not at all.

Create in freedom... refine to taste....  be at peace.

I agree. The only bots Ive ever used was a cybersecurity defense bot I took a class in to get certified in setting it up for large entities. The first time I ever communicated with any kind of bot besides a bot that learns from attack patterns was right here in our very own chat.