My phone kept ringing but there was no call nor alarm..

[twistandshout]

There is a glamour that comes with these things so you don't rationally think about it because "wow" or whatever your beliefs are. Is it moving where people or pets/animals would normally move, or was it behaving oddly? How exactly did you see it/what was the context. Sorry don't want to wake up demons, just in general these are things you must look for when something like this does occur. Never seen anything unstable. Blurry, I'm not sure what you mean..

The problem is you do not know "what" you saw, was it dream state, or imagination or something else, you can project planes with the subconscious and watch all these things and then you will know how to distinguish it. There is no doubt when something communicates with you or something other happens, but you must test it. What you saw was probably there but you are unable to confirm it so you will forever wonder like now

Shadow entities are usually visitors and others, we have a cat that is a companion and some other friends. I don't do anything to see something. Meditation is just exercise, training the third eye as you called it but also much more. Astral projection and OOBE's are completely something else, mostly I can not relate to the stories I read on the interment regarding OOBE's. I don't know what you where doing back then but I'm guessing it's something like this. 

Did something happen recently or do you just enjoy the topic and wanted to share?

You said you are from Vietnam, what does the local practices or folklore say? Elders and such. You might be able to find names for things otherwise you must learn yourself.

Those shadows moved/stood at walkable areas and there were always one shadow stood and wobbled near the stair. To be able to see them, I had to keep my eyes and my mind at a very relaxing state, no judging, no emotion, just oberserving. It sounds easy but it wasn't, once those shadows become clearer and clearer, emotions are harder and harder to control, it was very overwhelming. If I freaked out even just a bit, they all would fade away.

A year after I quit practicing those things, I saw one dark shadow again, but in my mind, while I was meditating. It was 11 pm and I was so tired, my friend told me to meditate again because they believed meditating could help me feel better. I was "alright, let me try". Then I saw the living room of my house, everything looked exactly the same as the real life's one and very dark (because it was at night). The only difference was the door/windows were missing, and there was a shadow lurking behind the wall, it tilted its head and looked into my house through the main door entrance. This time, it was more sharp and actually looked like a human (with head, neck, shoulder, etc).., not just blurry smoke. I couldn't see its face but somehow I knew it was a man and middle age. I looked at him for 2-3 seconds before I broke the relaxing state of my mind and everything immediately disappeared. This is the last time I saw weird, paranomal thing and it's been 2 years.

I've also tried OOBE but always failed. When I practiced it, I could feel there was something inside me shoot up from the Root Chakra area to the Crown Chakra, but it never got out of my head, like it was blocked.

[sahgwa]

What's your "spiritual stuff"?

I'm from Vietnam.

Hey mate, nice to meet you.
i had some very nice co-workers when I worked in clothing that were Vietnamese.

Currently my spiritual stuff is
Western hermetic rituals for cleaning and banishing
Invocations of my higher self ,
I am starting into Enochian to get to Angel areas.
I also do yoga of a Asana posture for 35 mins no moving to build qi and do inner qi gong and chakra work.
Will work up to an hour standstill.
Also very casual oobe training and astral projection but I am only good with scrying astral sight not so much with full 'tactile' projection.
​​​​​​also I like breathing exercises like pranayama.
just trying to be well rounded and also elevate and make new non human friends .
Best to you

[Sirius]

Those shadows moved/stood at walkable areas and there were always one shadow stood and wobbled near the stair. To be able to see them, I had to keep my eyes and my mind at a very relaxing state, no judging, no emotion, just oberserving. It sounds easy but it wasn't, once those shadows become clearer and clearer, emotions are harder and harder to control, it was very overwhelming. If I freaked out even just a bit, they all would fade away.

A year after I quit practicing those things, I saw one dark shadow again, but in my mind, while I was meditating. It was 11 pm and I was so tired, my friend told me to meditate again because they believed meditating could help me feel better. I was "alright, let me try". Then I saw the living room of my house, everything looked exactly the same as the real life's one and very dark (because it was at night). The only difference was the door/windows were missing, and there was a shadow lurking behind the wall, it tilted its head and looked into my house through the main door entrance. This time, it was more sharp and actually looked like a human (with head, neck, shoulder, etc).., not just blurry smoke. I couldn't see its face but somehow I knew it was a man and middle age. I looked at him for 2-3 seconds before I broke the relaxing state of my mind and everything immediately disappeared. This is the last time I saw weird, paranomal thing and it's been 2 years.

I've also tried OOBE but always failed. When I practiced it, I could feel there was something inside me shoot up from the Root Chakra area to the Crown Chakra, but it never got out of my head, like it was blocked.

Your instruction where bad, emotion flows..that is why you have the contradiction of no emotion and overwhelming. Nothing is easy or hard everything must be natural.
You can read Liber Null to fix your issues, as far as crash courses go it's pretty good. Crash course because you can literally crash through some stuff and also short.

Be zen

[Sirius]

I'm just going to take OOBE  thing and mr. Zen up there as synchronicity. There is a video that will come out soon where a demonologist talks about ancient warriors placing their souls in vessels before battle. I also overheard a conversation between boys imagining what a fight is like and getting punched. Getting clobbered is something I have much experience in   Martials arts has always been fun, I find it liberating, there is no pain. Afterwards it is terrible when you discover cracked ribs.  OOBE's are pretty common in walking life, just awareness is lacking. Donald D. Hoffman probably explains the tug of war between perception and fitness for survival when it comes to perceiving reality best.

[Sirius]

If you want to conjure things, then you need to look towards conjurers. Otherwise whatever haunts you haunts you..and will continue to haunt you until you look at the bubble of time surrounding the event. Paranormal becomes normal when it is named and meaning divined and it could be your own consciousness...

You must be Zen in meditations. The birds come to me. Bishops are hilarious and likes showing of. They enjoy bullying other birds. The sparrows are polite and will greet me with a little bow, they also have a strong sense of community and fight amongst each other, brave and quick to anger. Doves are complicated, they cycle from being autistic to possessed, perhaps to do with the flocking. The birds joins a greater consciousness when they flock, sharing senses joins perception. Seeing the aura around flocks of birds shocked me at first.

The point is being Zen. Otherwise intent with meditation and everything must be natural. Focus is trained through breathing. Emotions can be controlled with remembering the weather, it's a strong anchor. You can imagine a stormy day with chill wind blowing, or a sunny day basking in the sun hot and humid.

[UltraBudgie]

To be able to see them, I had to keep my eyes and my mind at a very relaxing state, no judging, no emotion, just oberserving. It sounds easy but it wasn't, once those shadows become clearer and clearer, emotions are harder and harder to control, it was very overwhelming. If I freaked out even just a bit, they all would fade away.

this does not sound easy, it is like telling someone don't think of an elephant, they will think of elephant. but touches on profound. observation and reacting isn't passive. there is reason we say "cast" you gaze on something. it is emanation, projection as much as reception. they say, the quieter you are the more you hear. also true with thought! this is why people can feel eyes on the back of their neck when someone is looking. passive perception without reaction very very difficult! hard to hide the noise inside. can be done somewhat, as you have seen, but that ability fades as universe attunes and it is very long road to more better road of quieting noise inside rather than hiding. have fun journey!

I've also tried OOBE but always failed. When I practiced it, I could feel there was something inside me shoot up from the Root Chakra area to the Crown Chakra, but it never got out of my head, like it was blocked.

here is speculation: elastic anchor exists, when experience "bounce off crown" effect of energy rising. this is ungrounded poorly root chakra. closing root or messy direct grounding of open root (yyech) cause this. truth, grounding must take path through chakras of you even lower than root, these are undocumented and for you to discover open and align. part of ajna process. path from root to ground mirror path from crown to air. when this is built and mastered no more bounce back. speculation: haha!

[rickymouse]

I never had anything like that happen to me with a phone.  I only had stuff like a wired in smoke alarm talking all garbled, but you could tell it was a guys voice and pick out some of what it was saying.  I thought my mind was playing tricks so I called the wife and granddaughter up and they were also trying to decipher what was being said.  The alarm actually goes to a speaker like unit, so somehow signals were coming through the wiring to the smoke alarm.  My question would be why only the one of three wired in smoke alarms was talking....but then again, nobody actually went and checked out if the other two were making noises, they came upstairs when I called them to listen.  It did that for about three or four minutes, and never did it again.  We could not tell if it was a phone call, it could have been a signal from anything that came through the power lines from who knows where.  Makes you wonder if someone could use power lines to transfer speech  to someone's  house to make them appear nuts.  At first I thought I was having some kind of epileptic seizure hitting my hearing, but it was not, the wife and granddaughter heard it and agreed it was some kind of talking that was distorted.  Who knows where it came from, and really I don't care, it was just interesting.

[Sirius]

I never had anything like that happen to me with a phone.  I only had stuff like a wired in smoke alarm talking all garbled, but you could tell it was a guys voice and pick out some of what it was saying.  I thought my mind was playing tricks so I called the wife and granddaughter up and they were also trying to decipher what was being said.  The alarm actually goes to a speaker like unit, so somehow signals were coming through the wiring to the smoke alarm.  My question would be why only the one of three wired in smoke alarms was talking....but then again, nobody actually went and checked out if the other two were making noises, they came upstairs when I called them to listen.  It did that for about three or four minutes, and never did it again.  We could not tell if it was a phone call, it could have been a signal from anything that came through the power lines from who knows where.  Makes you wonder if someone could use power lines to transfer speech  to someone's  house to make them appear nuts.  At first I thought I was having some kind of epileptic seizure hitting my hearing, but it was not, the wife and granddaughter heard it and agreed it was some kind of talking that was distorted.  Who knows where it came from, and really I don't care, it was just interesting.

Check this post/thread https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Polterg...4#pid34694

Induction is pretty common, speakers can start thumping and syncing with a signal. Every time certain cars drive past my Bluetooth headset goes bananas, amplifiers I think in them. I never let big brother off the hook either. Our electronic devices are simplistic and we treat them like magical devices, engineering is all about emerging complexity. 

Not dismissing the whole lot, what is also implied in my posts above is the never ending quest for truth and getting closer to the source. My life is repeating cycles of "what...oh" and "oh....no"

Is it illusion? Is it named already?  I decided to investigate one of the demons that flew past not long ago, found it pretty quickly the Impundulu, also known as the "lightning bird"...

There are interesting stories from this part of the world

Seems to fit the requirements "Mutwa was a storyteller (historian), painter, sculptor and author."
https://african-research.com/research/tr...redo-mutwa
 

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The "Zulu aliens myth" often refers to stories involving the Chitauri, a term associated with both Zulu mythology and the ideas of the late Credo Mutwa, a Zulu sangoma and author. In Zulu tradition, the Chitauri are depicted as serpent-like beings, sometimes associated with the origin of humanity and its early development. Mutwa, however, integrated these beings into a broader narrative, suggesting the Chitauri were reptilian aliens who mined gold in Southern Africa and enslaved humanity. 
Here's a breakdown of the key elements:
1. Zulu Mythology:
Chitauri as Snake People:

• In Zulu folklore, the Chitauri are portrayed as snake-like beings, potentially originating from the ocean.
  

Early Humanity:

• They are sometimes associated with the early stages of human development and the emergence of complex thought. 
  

2. Credo Mutwa's Interpretation:
Reptilian Aliens:

• Mutwa, drawing on Zulu cosmology and his own interpretations, presented the Chitauri as reptilian extraterrestrials who arrived on Earth. 
  

Gold Mining and Enslavement:

• Mutwa's version of the myth suggests that the Chitauri came to Southern Africa to mine gold and subjugated humanity. 
  

Underground Dwellers:

• He also believed that the Chitauri retreated underground and continue to hide within the Earth. 
  

[UltraBudgie]

it is weird that many slave origin stories revolve around mining gold -- that is understandable, easy metaphor -- and our modern electronics depend heavily on the mining of "rare earth elements". more dwarven alchemy. also that refining uranium is known as "enrichment". the wealth and extractionism metaphors are persistent. is this human id-thinking or part of a larger picture?

much of modern computational and communication systems is built on the idea of hierarchies of logical causal behaviour. like we can "sqeeze" the mystical indeterminate chaos out of reality, by making redundant systems that can be observed and understood at whatever level of verification. that they become more robust. like the tide of primordial chaos is held back by the sleek definitiveness of checksums and signal analysis.

but it doesn't work that way. these things are ampilifiers.

[Sirius]

Wait, what is this? Sorry OP you wanted paranormal

https://african-research.com/research/tr...redo-mutwa
Both a beloved and controversial figure, Mutwa was the first to talk about chronic child sexual abuse in Catholic-run orphanages in Africa, as he was a survivor.

...peers and pupils who all lived in Soweto at the time.
Incidentally, all three were women – Lillian, Mateilari Teka and Dorcas Danisa.

In Let Not My Country Die (1986), he recounts Danisa’s vision in 1975.
“In the vision she saw the Virgin Mary holding a calendar in her hands, and telling her that death and conflict were coming to South Africa, and that when that happened she, Mrs Danisa, was to go out into the streets and try and save black children from getting killed. I, Credo Mutwa, was to assist her in my capacity as High Sanusi

“From early childhood I grew accustomed to the sight of death in its most horrid and violent form,” he recalled.
While still an infant, he was baptised into the Roman Catholic Church at the behest of his father, a staunch Christian catechist, and was given the name Credo.

In 1943, he responded to the ancestral call to be trained as a sangoma after he was afflicted with a series of strange illnesses that Western-trained doctors did not understand.

Since childhood Mutwa has demonstrated unusual talent for painting and sculpting.


Credo called himself a sanusi (common spelling isanuse) which is a type of Zulu diviner or sangoma.

In many, there is a recurring figure of a woman, whom he called Ma in Indaba, My Children.

This is the depiction of the goddess of creation, known to the Zulu people as Nomkhubulwane.
 He frequently exalted the spirit of women as life givers and spoke against the abuse of women.

His journey into the world of Extraterrestials began after falling severely ill in his teenage years, and orthodox Western Medicine failing him, then his grandfather brought him back to health by taking him to recieve treatment from a Traditional African Healer.

The episode ignited a spiritual awakening, and at this point Baba Mutwa began to question many of the negative stereotypes and portrayals of African Spirituality perpetuated by Missionaries.

The Chitauri Ancient Astronaut Aliens Of Africa

Baba Mutwa provides extraordinary insight into the History of Alien intervention in Africa.

He chronicles Africa’s most ancient times in which Africans did not use speech but instead used Telepathy to communicate with each other and nature.