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07-02-2026, 12:13 PM
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(07-02-2026, 11:15 AM)Randyvine Wrote: But do we know death is the end?
Of course we don't. But we don't know that it isn't the end, either.
Quote:Because our soul is to big. Maybe the universe is just a glimpse of
what we really are?
What is a soul? Do souls exist?
We need to get the basic knowledge sorted out before we start asking ambitious questions.
Quote:Back me up members see what can you find stick with science as
close as you can for the spin off question. NDE's of course I want
anything you guys got that might be related. But most of all keep it
real and by that I mean fun just as it has been.
What do you think reader?
If you're sticking with science, no dice: there's no verifiable evidence of NDEs or any other nonphysical phenomenon. So we're in the realm of metaphysics then. Metaphysics is not science but a branch of philosophy. And in metaphysics you don't need to be able to prove a statement empirically ('scientifically') if you can argue it logically from statements that can be proved (or are self-evident). So fire away, Randy: let's hear your metaphysical argument. What makes you think your soul's bigger than the Universe? Sure that isn't blasphemous?
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Yep, just seeing more and more scientists saying that we the observer create spacetime, so are we gods?
"The only journey is the one within."
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07-02-2026, 10:21 PM
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(07-02-2026, 09:07 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Yep, just seeing more and more scientists saying that we the observer create spacetime, so are we gods?
Are you asking if no one is looking up, does the universe still exist?
It looks to behave like it does when observed. But then observation is said to have an effect on the observed.
I think this is a variation on the tree falling unobserved question.
When you say 'we', is that the we that is all humans, all life or all the universe? There is a difference.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
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(07-02-2026, 11:15 AM)Randyvine Wrote:
Oh I have no clue what you watched, but your question had me thinking of this movie, which I have been trying to find again for years. Finally asked the right questions and got an answer.
In the movie, a particular research team proved the existence of an afterlife, leading to an insanely amplified rate of suicides globally as people sought to start over. Quite a fascinating watch, if not just for the entertainment value.
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(07-02-2026, 09:07 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Yep, just seeing more and more scientists saying that we the observer create spacetime, so are we gods?
There is a vast array of opinion about what observer effect actually is.
For instance is it our observation that sets or changes reality, or, something greater that observes through us?
Or does reality totally and completely set our mode of observation and therefore our belief that we have free will is a delusion, the outcome being fixed forever before we thought we 'chose to observe'?
Or, are all possible outcomes already existent in infinite simultaneous multiversal branch instances, through which we navigate a path?
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(07-03-2026, 04:20 AM)chr0naut Wrote: There is a vast array of opinion about what observer effect actually is.
For instance is it our observation that sets or changes reality, or, something greater that observes through us?
Or does reality totally and completely set our mode of observation and therefore our belief that we have free will is a delusion, the outcome being fixed forever before we thought we 'chose to observe'?
Or, are all possible outcomes already existent in infinite simultaneous multiversal branch instances, through which we navigate a path?
Yeah, maybe when I experience deja vu that is reality showing me I already chose the same path in one or more alternate universes or dimensions, maybe in another spacetime life. Or, all paths lead to the same end game.
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(07-02-2026, 12:13 PM)Astyanax Wrote: Of course we don't. But we don't know that it isn't the end, either.
What is a soul? Do souls exist?
We need to get the basic knowledge sorted out before we start asking ambitious questions.
If you're sticking with science, no dice: there's no verifiable evidence of NDEs or any other nonphysical phenomenon. So we're in the realm of metaphysics then. Metaphysics is not science but a branch of philosophy. And in metaphysics you don't need to be able to prove a statement empirically ('scientifically') if you can argue it logically from statements that can be proved (or are self-evident). So fire away, Randy: let's hear your metaphysical argument. What makes you think your soul's bigger than the Universe? Sure that isn't blasphemous?
I didn't articulate that very well trying to rush for some reason
I can't even remember now. Ended up giving a contradiction in a single
phrase trying to lean towards the more clinical. There's a word.
Apologies
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(07-03-2026, 07:52 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Yeah, maybe when I experience deja vu that is reality showing me I already chose the same path in one or more alternate universes or dimensions, maybe in another spacetime life. Or, all paths lead to the same end game.
Quote:“Déjà vu is caused by dysfunctional connections between the parts of your brain that play a role in memory recollection and familiarity,” Dr. Khoury explains. “It’s a misfire that blurs the line between memory and new experience.”
In other words, it happens when there’s a miscommunication between two parts of your brain: The one responsible for memories (your temporal lobe) and the one responsible for taking in new information ( your hippocampus).
“If there’s a problem with how the hippocampus interacts with its surroundings, it can create a false memory that we experience as déjà vu. Memories and new experiences get wrapped up in each other,” he continues. “It’s a disruption of the recognition and memory systems that gives you that false sense of familiarity.”
Déja vu: the Cleveland Clinic
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07-04-2026, 01:22 AM
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(07-02-2026, 09:07 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Yep, just seeing more and more scientists saying that we the observer create spacetime, so are we gods?
I have never heard of any physicist saying we create spacetime. That is popular folkore, not science.
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(07-04-2026, 01:19 AM)Astyanax Wrote:
But that is only one explaniation for fealing one has done or experienced something before.
What about half remembered life experiences from the past that is triggered by a similar action, circumstance, even smell?
How about a memory of a similar thing from a book, a movie, a song.
The human mind is much beyond simple phycology or psychiatry. Neither of which have gone beyond spells and potions they barely understand and don't work the same from person to person.
Compared to let's say surgery, they are beginning to disect cadavers looking at and drawing what they find. Still incapable to actually making a certain outcome of any thing they try.
Just a few decades ago, labitomy was the treatment for a lot of problems. And even now, pills to rob one of the ability to have thoughts are being used.
Science of how the brain works has not had it's Louis Pasteur yet.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
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