A really big question

[Randyvine]

Neil De Grasse Tyson is the televangelist of science. He sounds good but is not really the scientist many think he is.

Yes, Sty enlightened me. And frankly I was surprized by my ignorance.
I mean why would I not suspect something erroneous in his regard the same
way I do everything else? Just another example of right when ya think ya
know something. Survey said, AAAAAAHHHHHH!

[Astyanax]

One of the suggestions about the first instance of the creation of matter is that there was a 'sea' of virtual particles (evidenced by the Casimir experiment) which normally spontaneously appear and then self-annihilate again without a trace as the two opposites attract each other and negate each other perfectly (or nearly so, there is a "supersymmetry" problem that the universe seems to have heavily favored matter over antimatter).

They hypothesize that, in the same way Hawking radiation is created by the gravitational gradient at the Schwarzschild radius around a gravitational singularity, one v-particle escapes, and the other is captured, somehow, and this leads to an imbalance that we call matter.

Of course, without the vast amount of matter that is required to create the phenomenal gradient in forces that is required to capture one half of the v-particle pair, it isn't actually explicative of how the very first matter could exist. Until someone theorizes or observes something that should be unobservable, this is as mythical as the best ancient legends, that also fail to explain origins with any true scientific rigor.

Had to rewind that a few times... 

There are two theoretical ways a universe can come into existence: through the gravitational collapse of an earlier universe (a Big Crunch followed by a Big Bang, i.e. what you might call a Big Bounce) or by budding off from an existing universe as a black hole.

If I see an explicative coming down the street I turn and stare into a shop window and hope it goes by without noticing me.

[chr0naut]

Had to rewind that a few times... 

There are two theoretical ways a universe can come into existence: through the gravitational collapse of an earlier universe (a Big Crunch followed by a Big Bang, i.e. what you might call a Big Bounce) or by budding off from an existing universe as a black hole.

If I see an explicative coming down the street I turn and stare into a shop window and hope it goes by without noticing me.

"Whoever battles monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster himself. And when you look long into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you." - from Friedrich Nietzsche's 1886 work, 'Beyond Good and Evil'.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Had to rewind that a few times... 

There are two theoretical ways a universe can come into existence: through the gravitational collapse of an earlier universe (a Big Crunch followed by a Big Bang, i.e. what you might call a Big Bounce) or by budding off from an existing universe as a black hole.

If I see an explicative coming down the street I turn and stare into a shop window and hope it goes by without noticing me.

There is also the possibility that all the measurements of motion are just very slightly off and everything is just swirling around each other and not expanding. 

An everchanging static universe. It always has been and always will be. Just small bits of it keep forming, ageing, dying, then forming again.

[Randyvine]

"Whoever battles monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster himself. And when you look long into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you." - from Friedrich Nietzsche's 1886 work, 'Beyond Good and Evil'.

Awesome quote, Belongs as an intro to a mavie or book.
I'm putting this one in my notes. 

My thought
When monsters are allowed cruelty over others the result is often another monster.
Another very angry and far worse monster.

[Astyanax]

"Whoever battles monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster himself. And when you look long into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you." - from Friedrich Nietzsche's 1886 work, 'Beyond Good and Evil'.

Oh, there's no harm in that. Let her have a good look.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Oh, there's no harm in that. Let her have a good look.

I find it strange that most people take so long to notice the void looking at them. 

The void does not finally stare at you. You have finally looked at it. It is probably happy you finally noticed it.

[Astyanax]

It is probably happy you finally noticed it.

It is you.

[Randyvine]

Okay you maniacs, I was recommended this film I watched this morning
(not gonna post it here) and to my surprize it was some what related to
the topic we got go'n on here.  Everything, everywhere, all at once.
It might of been an elaborate "Tide" commercial with martial arts as the
"Ancient chinese secret". If you 've seen it you know what I mean.
But it was pretty good.

So but yeah, it got me thinking again and a term used fairly often in 
at least the western world is " Life as we know it". Usually as a pretense
in conversations of a some forseen potential catastrophe or in science
fiction, philosophy.

So it is a reality we all recognize each and everyone in this life as we
know it. We do not experience everything everywhere all at once.
Here we've been dicussing how size in does not stop time.
But in some ways could distort it. This life as we all know ends in
death.

But do we know death is the end? Maybe it's just semantics and death
is really just the end of "life as we know it". Now check this out. If death
is the end of our conciousness in this universe and I think that really does
define what death is. And the reason are souls are no longer present or
a part of this reality could be, could be, wait for it.

Because our soul is to big. Maybe the universe is just a glimpse of
what we really are?

Back me up members see what can you find stick with science as
close as you can for the spin off question. NDE's of course I want
anything you guys got that might be related. But most of all keep it
real and by that I mean fun just as it has been.

What do you think reader?

[BeyondKnowledge]

Okay you maniacs, I was recommended this film I watched this morning
(not gonna post it here) and to my surprize it was some what related to
the topic we got go'n on here.  Everything, everywhere, all at once.
It might of been an elaborate "Tide" commercial with martial arts as the
"Ancient chinese secret". If you 've seen it you know what I mean.
But it was pretty good.

So but yeah, it got me thinking again and a term used fairly often in 
at least the western world is " Life as we know it". Usually as a pretense
in conversations of a some forseen potential catastrophe or in science
fiction, philosophy.

So it is a reality we all recognize each and everyone in this life as we
know it. We do not experience everything everywhere all at once.
Here we've been dicussing how size in does not stop time.
But in some ways could distort it. This life as we all know ends in
death.

But do we know death is the end? Maybe it's just semantics and death
is really just the end of "life as we know it". Now check this out. If death
is the end of our conciousness in this universe and I think that really does
define what death is. And the reason are souls are no longer present or
a part of this reality could be, could be, wait for it.

Because our soul is to big. Maybe the universe is just a glimpse of
what we really are?

Back me up members see what can you find stick with science as
close as you can for the spin off question. NDE's of course I want
anything you guys got that might be related. But most of all keep it
real and by that I mean fun just as it has been.

What do you think reader?

There are many theories on what happens at death. Does the life of the spirit go on? It depends on which flavor of life as we know it you prefer.

For some it just stops. Not very encouraging or imaginative in my opinion.

For some it returns to which it came. This ishas many possibilities again.

Is the entire universe one being that got bored and made many copies of itself to play in an arena like creation?

Is the universe an experiment for determining what was lost when the ultimate being ascended to be the ultimate being? It is trying to learn about what it once was. 

Is it a training ground much as Narnia? Are the soles just being recycled untill they learn a higher understanding?

All these possibilities and many more are available in the game of Life as we Know it.  Once you start to play, you can never know the outcome or what is after it is over. That is just one of the rules of the game.

You can't really science such a mataphisical concept. 

You see the biggest problem is that anyone that actually has found the truth cannot tell anyone else as they cannot return with that knowledge.