A really big question

[worldstarcountry]

I don't have much time for a comment right now, but this video came up I have not seen since last year  and could not find it again. A lovely breakdown of sound and frequency resonance, the evidence that early civilizations. Including analysis of multiple cone shaped objects depicted in ancient art and documentation, that light and sound create a torroidal field, which is what Earth also emits. Interconnected between magnetism, cones and torroidal shapes . A lot of connection of magnetism sound and cones shaped tools manipulating humanity.

IT starts focusing on sounds, and stay that way but also covers a ton of ancient likely technological devices utilizing frequency resonance for purposes?? It feels like it belongs in this conversation, but likely deserves a thread of its own.

[Randyvine]

IT starts focusing on sounds, and stay that way but also covers a ton of ancient likely technological devices utilizing frequency resonance for purposes?? It feels like it belongs in this conversation, but likely deserves a thread of its own.

From about 911 on I've come to the conclusion that vibration is the key 
to the universe. So far nothing I've heard nor read has given me reason
to revise. I even believe it can heal.

[Byrd]

The gentleman in the vid gives such a great orientation I couldn't help
but understand. Photons aren't particles like the ones that collide at
Cern. Sounds pretty much like a phenomena all it's own. Just because
we see it in this reality doesn't mean it exists as part of this reality.

Here's a question:

Do you my good member know if there has ever been discovery that
points to or indicates or suggests that light had to be created? Any
evidence of that as far as you know? Thank you Sty

The Blackness of space seems to suggest to me it had to be created
somehow or another. By what or whom being an entirely different
question.

Feynman's ability to explain things in the simplest terms is legendary.  He explained the 1986 explosion of the space shuttle Challenger by bringing an O ring into the conference, dropping it into his glass of iced water and talking for a bit, then taking the ring out and dropping it onto the table... where it shattered.

The blackness of space is simply the result of scattering.  In truth it's full of light.

Think of a petri dish.  Individual bacteria aren't visible (except with a very strong microscope) but you can see them when there's a bunch of them clumped together.  Now think of this bacterial colony being on an ever-expanding petri-dish-balloon (it's imagination; we can do anything!)  As the balloon dish expands, the bacterial groups fragment into smaller and smaller pieces.  Eventually they are so spread that we don't see the individual ones that are there; only the ones still clumping together.

Light is a type of energy, so, yes... it's created.  Otherwise we couldn't have fire.  The energy for a photon is there, but it's not photons until something specific happens.  Like chocolate chip cookies.  Chocolate chips and flour and so forth are there, but they don't turn  into cookies until something else happens.

[Randyvine]

Feynman's ability to explain things in the simplest terms is legendary.  He explained the 1986 explosion of the space shuttle Challenger by bringing an O ring into the conference, dropping it into his glass of iced water and talking for a bit, then taking the ring out and dropping it onto the table... where it shattered.

I remember reading this somewhere years back. About5 the O ring, now i
can put face on it for memory. Cool stuff.

Think of a petri dish.  Individual bacteria aren't visible (except with a very strong microscope) but you can see them when there's a bunch of them clumped together.  Now think of this bacterial colony being on an ever-expanding petri-dish-balloon (it's imagination; we can do anything!)  As the balloon dish expands, the bacterial groups fragment into smaller and smaller pieces.  Eventually they are so spread that we don't see the individual ones that are there; only the ones still clumping together.

One really has to expand to a way of thinking on a different scale.

Tomorrow I'm break'n out the cookie dough Byrd. I just hope
the roomy's up for baking.

[Astyanax]

Do you my good member know if there has ever been discovery that points to or indicates or suggests that light had to be created? Any evidence of that as far as you know? Thank you Sty [Image: https://denyignorance.com/images/ogsmilies/thumbup.gif]

Created by someone? Dunno, but there was a time when light did not exist in the Universe. Photons came into existence only about 10sec after the Big Bang. It wasn't till about 400,000 years later, though, that the Universe became transparent to light. You can think of either of those events as the creation of light if you like.
  

Photons aren't particles like the ones that collide at Cern.

No, those have mass. Photons have none. But they do have momentum, so they can exert pressure even though they lack mass.

Weirder yet: do you know what's happening all the time? Photons (which don't exist till you measure them) are constantly splitting apart and recombining when you aren't looking at them. It's called 'virtual particle formation'. Our theory of particle physics requires virtual particles to exist. We know the theory is good because checks out in other ways.

And when a photon splits into two virtual particles, those particles have mass. Even though the photon that gave birth to them did not. And these particles, one made of matter and one of antimatter, retain that mass until they annihilate each other attoseconds later.

Common sense, they said. Science is just applied common sense...

[Byrd]

Created by someone? Dunno, but there was a time when light did not exist in the Universe. Photons came into existence only about 10sec after the Big Bang. It wasn't till about 400,000 years later, though, that the Universe became transparent to light. You can think of either of those events as the creation of light if you like.
  

No, those have mass. Photons have none. But they do have momentum, so they can exerts pressure even though they lack mass.

Weirder yet: do you know what's happening all the time? Photons (which don't exist till you measure them) are constantly splitting apart and recombining when you aren't looking at them. It's called 'virtual particle formation'. Our theory of particle physics requires virtual particles to exist. We know the theory is good because checks out in other ways.

And when a photon splits into two virtual particles, those particles have mass. Even though the photon that gave birth to them did not. And these particles, one made of matter and one of antimatter, retain that mass until they annihilate each other attoseconds later.

Common sense, they said. Science is just applied common sense...

That's a really nice explanation.  Do you have a preferred site (link) where people could find out more detail?

[Astyanax]

That's a really nice explanation.  Do you have a preferred site (link) where people could find out more detail?

You're too kind, Byrd. Unfortunately I don't have a particular site to recommend. The bit about photonic 'first light' in the Universe is just standard early-cosmic-evolution stuff; I used Wikipedia for checking the sequence of events and the timing.

The description of virtual particle annihilation is probably from A Brief History of Time, where it is introduced in order to explain Hawking radiation. I read it a long time ago, though, so it's a bit spotty.

[Astyanax]

A lovely breakdown of sound and frequency resonance, the evidence that early civilizations. Including analysis of multiple cone shaped objects depicted in ancient art...

Not my cup of tea, I'm afraid. Maybe if I didn't know all this damn' physics... 

[bastion]

Maybe the biggest

A question I have pondered unknowing if others have ever done the same.
Does size matter? Time and space being relative, I assume by the movement
of celestial objects thru the vast void of empty space is what ultimately would
govern time by distance traversed. So it might seem silly but what if someone
or something were the same size as the universe? Or even bigger living outside
of the capture? What would happen to time if I were so big that I was everywhere
all at once? I would already be anywhere I could go in the universe so it would take
no time to get there.  And why does George Costanza keep popping in n out right now?

Anyway it it doesn't matter

Yet also about all the proportions sizes and shapes of everything in the universe? Are
they not products of decision making? If not then size doesn't matter when it seems
like pretty important stuff to be left up to just some random guy. Then sizes of everything
would be all over the map. And dare for I mention that looking at maps driving truck
sticks this kind of crap in my head. So just wondering how way off coarse my brain often
takes me ladies and gentlemn of Ignorance, any thoughts?

One for the grays :)

I don't know the answer but it seems to match the Russel Paradox in set theory where the 'set of all sets' or suoerset contains itself. In some areas of maths like Z functions it gets around the paradox and the set of all sets/superset doesn't contain itself and it doesn't violate mathematical logic and laws.

My guess is if something was omnipotent then time wouldn't apply to it as time = distance/speed and distance and speed would either be 0 or infinity.

Eigen functions and vectors may apply to it as a superstate or super positiions where it is everything all at once and time doesn't apply until it goes into the collapsed state when calculated.

All that has to be taken with a healthy pinch of salt but it's fun to think and talk about.

Cantor Sets may be of interest to you as if you have a line and remove the middle third of it for several iteratons (repeating the process) you end up with the same parts of the line left behind as there were in the original line so it is uncountable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor_set

[BeyondKnowledge]

 

486 ly is 29,280,000 au. Clicker is only off by 1000 times. Don't trust a clicker, they lie. They don't work in facts. They only want to make you happy so you won't turn them off. 

Google did the light years to astronomical units conversion. It only knows numbers in the conversion. It doesn't know what answer you want so it can't make things up to make you happy.

Having further checked clickers math. The cell wall will be only  0.000046 light years from the Earth size nucleus which is 2.9 au. If the nucleus was in the place of the Sun, the cell outer membrane would be between Mars and Jupiter, where the asteroids are. 

That is going by the clickers numbers of 10 cm fist, 12742 km Earth, and 343 km London to Paris. Do we need to check those numbers also?