Speaker Johnson on Illegals and what Scripture Says

[FlyersFan]

Pope Leo is New World Order and wants all countries to have wide open borders.
He frequently misquotes scripture saying 'welcome the stranger' as an excuse
for this and that everyone should welcome an invasion of illegals into their country.
It's what the New World Order wants with the 'Great Replacement' ... and 
lemmings with their misplaced compassion fall in line.

Speaker Johnson was asked to reply to the popes rhetoric with scripture.   
This was his response.   I'm not a Speaker Johnson fan but I think he did a 
good job with it.

Bottom line - wanting wide open borders is misplaced compassion, not fair for those
forced to take on the burden of illegals .... and strong border security is consistent
with Christian values and biblical teaching.

Borders and walls are biblical.  All through the scripture we see that God has allowed
people to have separate nations and set up civil societies, and have countries and cities
with borders.   Legal immigrants were welcomed.   Others were not.

STORY HERE

"Borders and walls are biblical — from the Old Testament to the New, God has allowed us to set up our civil societies and have separate nations," Johnson said. "Immigration is not something that’s frowned upon in Scripture. In fact, it’s welcomed. We are to welcome the sojourner and love our neighbor as ourselves. But what’s also important in the Bible is that assimilation is expected, and anticipated, and proper. When someone comes into your country, comes into your nation, they do not have the right to change its laws or to change its society. They’re expected to assimilate. We haven’t had a lot of that going on."

 
He went on to argue that there is a difference between the expectations of individuals within a society versus the rulers who maintain the stability of society itself.  "When people cite passages out of the Old Testament, I say, ‘Well, you’re supposed to take care of the sojourner and the neighbor and treat them as yourself, welcome them in.’ Yes, but that is an admonition to individuals, not to civil authorities. The civil authorities are given authority under Scripture to maintain order. Romans 12 — you want to do this? 

 
"Romans 13 says that the civil authorities are God’s agents of wrath to bring punishment upon the wrongdoer. And it says, ‘If you do right, you have no fear of the civil authorities, but those civil authorities are necessary.’ It’s a calling. It’s a calling to maintain order in society. And we have not had that." 

 

Indeed, the civil authorities are specifically charged to do justice, to ‘bear the sword,’ and to serve as "the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil" (Rom. 13:1-4, KJV). As the Bible warns: ‘When a crime is not punished quickly, people feel it is safe to do wrong’ (Ecc. 8:11, TLB)," Johnson wrote. 

 
"Read in its context, the passage in Leviticus 19 makes perfect sense. Showing love and kindness to a stranger was not a command given to civil government, but instead to individual believers. That same principle is emphasized in the New Testament. When Jesus spoke of embracing, caring, and providing for ‘the least of these’ (E.g., Matt. 25:31-40), His instruction was given to His disciples, and not the local authorities."

 
"Sovereign borders are biblical and good and right, and they’re just. Because it’s not because we hate the people on the outside. It’s because we love the people on the inside. We should love our neighbors as ourself, as individuals, but the civil authority and the government has to maintain the law, and that is biblical, and it’s right, and it’s just, and I’m happy to have this lengthy debate with anybody any time they want to."

[David64]

Yeah ? How many illegals live in Vatican City ?
 

Vatican City residency is almost exclusively limited to clergy, high-ranking officials, Swiss Guards, and select staff necessary for the Holy See's operation. Citizenship and residency are granted based on jus officii (appointment to work), and typically expire when the employment ceases. Roughly 250–300 people live within the walls. 

When they open their doors, I'll think about it.

[FlyersFan]

Yeah ? How many illegals live in Vatican City ?

"Pope Francis" (who I do not think was properly elected) and Pope Leo (who was properly elected) both are/were advocates for wide open borders and the New World Order.   They purposely misquote scripture (welcome the stranger) and push "The Great Replacement" and the lemmings suck it up.

I am not a fan of speaker Johnson but I think he did a good job of putting the pope in his place without directly insulting the guy.   'Welcome the stranger' does NOT mean to get rid of borders.

[andy06shake]

Legal immigrants were welcomed.   Others were not.
 

So what constituted legal immigration back then?

Who was welcome and who was not?

[UltraBudgie]

is this not a matter of 'rendering unto caesar' his nation's border policy, which is caesar's?

one should also hold caesar to account for what is fair and just, of course, such as caesar permits...

unless the democrats want a theocracy?

the left: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/news...69/008.jpg

[FlyersFan]

So what constituted legal immigration back then?

Who was welcome and who was not?

Gotta narrow that down.  What time period?

Take Jesus flight into Egypt.

As a child, Jesus was a temporary legal refugee.   He and his mother and step father traveled to Egypt to escape persecution in his homeland.   Egypt had a Hebrew settlement that was in the country and allowed by the Egyptian government.   Jesus stayed for a few years, allowed by the Egyptian government, and then left when the crisis ended.

I would imagine that if people tried to migrate into places that they were not allowed to do so by the governments of those areas, that back then those people would have been expelled or outright killed by the law enforcement.

There were borders.
There were walls.
There were soldiers protecting those lands from intruders.

Dunno'.   Gotta' ask an historian.

[andy06shake]

Gotta narrow that down.  What time period?

Put it this way, i don't think Joseph or Mary had passports or any paperwork to speak of.

And they at least got a stable. 

I don't think Jesus would agree with ICE antics, same as your pope.

[FlyersFan]

Put it this way, i don't think Joseph or Mary had passports or any paperwork to speak of.

And they at least got a stable. 

I don't think Jesus would agree with ICE antics, same as your pope.

The stable was in their own homeland and the travel there was ordered by the authorities.

When they traveled to Egypt they didn't need paperwork.   
They were Hebrews and the settlement was there for Hebrews coming in. 
The Egyptian authorities approved of it elsewise it would have been destroyed. 

ICE doesnt' engage in 'antics'.   The lawless agitators do.    And as Jesus said ... 'give to Caesar what is Caesars and give to God what is Gods'.    Christ wasn't political.   

As to Pope Leo and his New World Order wide open borders ... he can go stuff himself.

[andy06shake]

he can go stuff himself.

Funnily enough, a lot of people seem to think the same thing about ICE.

Jesus would not endorse or be any part of ICE current actions or antics in the USA.

Kid yourself on if you please...

But that's about as far from Christian ethos as we can get. 

As to back then, there was no paperwork, so to speak, because most people could not read or write for a start.

And little to no real immigration rules to reach for either regarding the everyday common man.

It's not like people had birth certificates or passports to produce on request. 

If you had money or resources, and the ability to make the journey, you were welcome, if not, probably not so much.

If Jesus came to the USA today, he would be deported back to the Middle East as far as i can establish.

[FlyersFan]

Jesus would not endorse or be any part of ICE current actions or antics in the USA.

again ...  ICE doesn't engage in 'antics'.   The lawless agitators do.

again ... Jesus wasn't political.  He wouldn't have made any statement at all about ICE or illegals or anything else.  He made statements about spiritual matters.   Not secular.