Calling for a challenger on political debate

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

So something more streamlined. 

I'll argue "pro" on The Second Trump Administration Is employing Fascist tactics, and "con" on are democrats a socialist/communist front?, if that one is ever done.

Set it up. Let me know when I need an opening argument.

[Maxmars]

I have the gist now....

This is about saying the American government is fascists.
It seems evident to me that this is a very misunderstood concept...

From wiki Fascism.
 

....complicated and highly disputed subject concerning the exact nature of fascism and its core tenets debated amongst historians, political scientists, and other scholars ever since Benito Mussolini first used the term in 1915....

 
It also goes on to note that even the 'ideology' of fascism is largely debatable... a matter of opinion amongst the most learned scholars.
 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines fascism as "a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition"

IMP = The Second Trump Administration Is employing Fascist tactics
DBC = "the current US administration is not fascist."

the contention now becomes the soup to boil....

Is it about "the government" or is it about "the governing."

I ask you merge these two not exactly parallel assertions...
unless you need the wiggle room.

You see, I am seeing a) "The current US administration," and "the second Trump administration"
as equivalent... but b) "is not fascist" and "is employing fascist tactics" are not equivalent.

Ready set go!

Just kidding....

Ready to go with your title... when it syncs up.

[DBCowboy]

I have the gist now....

This is about saying the American government is fascists.
It seems evident to me that this is a very misunderstood concept...

From wiki Fascism.
 
 
It also goes on to note that even the 'ideology' of fascism is largely debatable... a matter of opinion amongst the most learned scholars.
 

IMP = The Second Trump Administration Is employing Fascist tactics
DBC = "the current US administration is not fascist."

the contention now becomes the soup to boil....

Is it about "the government" or is it about "the governing."

I ask you merge these two not exactly parallel assertions...
unless you need the wiggle room.

You see, I am seeing a) "The current US administration," and "the second Trump administration"
as equivalent... but b) "is not fascist" and "is employing fascist tactics" are not equivalent.

Ready set go!

Just kidding....

Ready to go with your title... when it syncs up.

Can we agree on the definition of fascism prior to the debate?

[Maxmars]

Can we agree on the definition of fascism prior to the debate?

Shall I be stupid and ask, "Can you?" or "Do you?"

This is an important provision... that fascism can be defined cooperatively.

Perhaps you two should start a thread somewhere to explore the question.

Lacking that... you can pick a dictionary... or other source...

Unless you intend to  debate the definition... 

Perhaps a title like "If the US is employing fascist tactics, it is therefore is a fascist state."

... or something...

[DBCowboy]

Shall I be stupid and ask, "Can you?" or "Do you?"

This is an important provision... that fascism can be defined cooperatively.

Perhaps you two should start a thread somewhere to explore the question.

Lacking that... you can pick a dictionary... or other source...

Unless you intend to  debate the definition... 

Perhaps a title like "If the US is employing fascist tactics, it is therefore is a fascist state."

... or something...

That's the point.

Trump enacting current laws is not fascist, the prior administration did not follow the current laws.

So we see an issue now.

I'd agree to the Webster definition of fascism if my opponent would.

[DBCowboy]

So nothing from my opponent?

[Maxmars]

So nothing from my opponent?

I have responded to you in PM... let's not further belabor the process...

To think... this debate spawned all by itself...

As to will there be others?...

there already are others here, every day...

but these debates will stand out...

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

So nothing from my opponent?

???

I thought it was agreed to and set, and all i had to do was wait to be prompted in the debate thread. I was waiting for it to be my turn to make my opening argument what Trump 2.0 parallels fascism.

And PMs dont always work. I sometimes ignore my inbox for days at a time.

[Maxmars]

Standing by....

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Im ready to make my opening argument..  Is this the thread where that happens?  

If this is the thread, is everyone waiting on me??