(06-05-2024, 06:56 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: As a Zionist, I support Israel.
You can be a zionist.
The problem is how fair your judgement is.
You can only support one side no matter what.
(06-09-2024, 10:13 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Wow, Toronto's walk for Israel.... thousands of people, very encouraging
https://x.com/MOSSADil/status/1799819997889585322
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There are many marches everywhere in the world against the occupation of Palestine. Students and workers of all types don't want an occupied Palestine and don't want war and destruction and the killing of so many innocent people.
(06-05-2024, 06:42 PM)putnam6 Wrote:
This is why it's difficult to have a discussion, nowhere did I say, suggest or infer Gaza is free.
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Less than 5% of the total student bodies participated in the protests, and only about 10% of those students knew Palestinians' thoughts on individual rights within a Palestinian-controlled state.
Only about 10% know what happens to LBGTQG in a Palestinian-controlled society.
This is where the aforementioned critical thinking comes in. Women's Rights and LBGTQ rights are non-existent both groups face violence and death in Gaza and the West Bank.
Once students learn this overt reality their support usually wanes tremendously, the only ones left are those upset STRICTLY over the human toll, Considering the size and scope of the IDF's mission civilian deaths are incredibly low.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_right..._Palestine
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The prevalence of child marriage within the oPt is at 24 percent. Although, in general, child early forced marriage seems to be declining, an increase has been perceived in certain areas, particularly parts of Gaza and isolated parts of Area C and East Jerusalem.
Women and girls with disabilities, Bedouin women, internally displaced women and women and girls living in refugee camps are particularly at risk of violence. Being physically cut off from employment prospects and financially dependent on partners leaves them with few options for supporting themselves financially, and therefore they are more likely to marry, and not to report intimate partner violence if it means losing their only source of financial support.
Women and girls in communities impacted by conflict and displacement, i.e. Gaza, Area C and East Jerusalem, tend to suffer from higher incidence of GBV, including more frequent incidents of intimate partner violence, sexual abuse and exploitation, and forced marriage. These communities also tend to be characterized by limited availability of and access to multi-sectoral protection services. The areas with the lowest percentage of households reporting availability of psycho-social services in case of GBV were East Jerusalem (8.9 per cent), Gaza (31.6 per cent) and Area C (38.8 per cent).
People have suggested Gaza is free because Israeli citizens have moved out and some other excuses. Gaza just like the West Bank are occupied territories by the Israeli forces and Gaza is an open air concentration camp according to many scholars (some of them Jewish in origin)
(06-05-2024, 04:54 PM)Blaine91555 Wrote: I did not say that. Are we having language issues? What I said is a simple fact. The part of the brain that is responsible for critical thinking skills does not fully develop until the age of 25 or so.
You're not going to convince me to support terrorists, become anti-semetic or blame Israel which was attacked by terrorists. Hamas makes no secret of its goals which includes all Jews dead and then anyone in the world who will not join in with them eventually dead. Unless you are Muslim and believe in their version of their religion, they want you dead. There is no freedom in their version of the world.
You're saying students don't have critical thinking skills because they don't support the war in Gaza? Then according to this logic most of the world doesn't have good critical thinking skills because most people are against what Israel is doing in Gaza. If you think that by not supporting the war or Israel makes you an antisemite perhaps you should look at the definition of antisemitism again. Funny thing- many Jewish people are against what they call mass murder and genocide of Palestinians.