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(05-17-2024, 02:25 PM)putnam6 Wrote: True, here we offer our opinions, here on Deny Ignorance we also encourage supportive and corroborative evidence. Otherwise, you are just standing on a soapbox preaching your individual sermon, respectfully it's a bit monotonous
No other country has what America has to offer they don't need any other help
Are you suggesting it is just Israel and America against all the other countries of the world?
Respectfully not trying to change your opinion, Im fully aware it's all you have. Keep clutching to it.
Amazingly if Hamas released the hostages' I would be more apt to agree with you on stopping the madness.
Amazingly, you never mention the hostages. If they didn't take hostages I'd been much more apt to want the IDF to stop the fighting months ago.
For me I am here for the discussion and even though Im fairly certain I'm solidly behind Israel and the hostages.
This doesn't mean I agree with everything the IDF does. I never thought the IDF would get this far into Gaza without having to pull out because of "outside" pressure. I loathe the death of innocent, children in particular. It occurs all over the world every day, again tell me why there are no protests for the Sudanese. FWIW enough pressure on this administration about that situation might get a more positive response than expecting them to cut off a valuable ally in the real world. REALITY
More reality is if Gaza didn't want to open itself up to the wrath of the IDF perhaps they should have realized this was the inevitable response. Hamas thought they would get support from Hezbollah, Iran, and all the others who denounce Israel's existence. They miscalculated badly, and in the real world, there are consequences.
For the best perspective, there were 238,000 plus deaths in global conflict in 2022, the conflict in Gaza represents a little over 10%. In other words, there is a lot of killing going on elsewhere that our college students don't give a piss about.
Heres a link where called Gaza Graduation where protesting students can win 100 bucks for correct answers to simple questions about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict these are college students mind you
https://x.com/persianjewess/status/1791513427128782862
Some links my friend are not supportive and corroborating evidence. Sometime you can use links sometime they are not so useful.
I can find anything online and I don't even bother. Best to offer my opinion rather than links (there are many if you want converting both sides of the argument)
I can ask many questions myself to those who believe they know about Gaza. I don't think they will get it right if their source of information is only the MSM and their continuous propaganda and lies.
(05-17-2024, 01:49 PM)Blaine91555 Wrote: When protest shuts down a school, it is no longer protest as its denying others their Rights. At that point it is a riot and criminal. When instructors join in the crime, they should be fired on the spot. People don't pay ridiculous amounts of money to not get an education because a hateful minority is allowed to flourish. When anarchy takes over, everyone loses.
I do not buy into the notion that most of them even understand what they are there for. Many if not most are just there for the thrill. The interlopers who are there only to fuel the fire of hate, and are not even students there, need to be spanked by the system. Meaningful stays in jail and fines that break them financially. The anarchists don't give a damn about the Palestinians or anyone for that matter.
If you have spent time at College/University you see they have slightly different rules as student unions are usually powerful. Students tend to occupy buildings and in many other countries the police can't even enter the premises. Not in the US but it needs a careful approach especially when the students protest against the war. It's common to be called trouble makers, anarchists, communists. Many of them are and are very proud of it, they don't hide it. You want to be against the establishment when you are young and against war. You want to be on the side of the weak. You know what I mean?
(05-18-2024, 01:35 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Even this live video today, of a protest in New York the camera never pans out and shows how small it actually is, ever.
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/-asXzY4vrf8?si=l-EB-ZGEnTwa5AJu]
It might have been small but overall the level of support people have shown for Palestine is phenomenal. Countries like South Africa and lately Egypt have gone a step further by accusing Israel of war crimes and genocide.
