Debate: IdeoMotorPrisoner v. Putnam6 -

[putnam6]

Think more?

How did you do your first couple of posts with half your brain tied behind your back? 

Regardless, your position is full of what might happen and the absolute worst-case scenarios.

I vaguely remember coming across the Kardashev Scale a while back, it brings up an interesting point about humans and our lifespan. We might not live long enough individually or collectively to have successful projects that span generations and thus we need some off-world or multi dimensional assistance.



While mine admittedly are full of rainbows and unicorns and the best-case scenarios, we both know the truth is much more likely to be somewhere in the middle.

Even if we were to contact and be able to communicate with an NHI 

Some aspects will be shockingly different and traumatic, while others will be positively life-altering for humanity. Traumatic or positive it's still the most likely course of action that keeps us from destroying ourselves internally, we need a paradigm change, don't you feel this happening?

I certainly do, hopefully, it will be life-changing for this generation and those that follow—potentially ending our wars, poverty, hunger, and disease allowing people to live differently and not tied to the 9-5 48-hour workweek.  There are many reasons we can't continue on our current path. 

  Whatever happens, it's the next level of the human experience. a step we must take or we end up just just a few hundred years more advanced than the North Sentinal Island population.

We live in a world with an increasingly divided and disgusted population with a younger generation pissed off at thier parents and an older generation who looks at thier children collectively and thinks they are mostly pathetic, while deep down knowing they certainly are partially to blame. 

This is the first generation that isn't likely to outperform thier parents. Something has to change, we should have legitimate concerns about how our grandchildren's and great-grandchildren's lives will be even absent of NHI help or intervention. Go read the adulting subreddit, for examples of 30 and under adults struggling with just the basics of modern human life. My generation has the space and moon race, which highlighted humanity's best and brightest in the shadow of the turbulent '60s, it gave us hope and a worthy diversion from the chaos

  The sad reality is that left isolated to their own choices and decisions, our world will continue down this dark path towards a probable armageddon or at best a world full of famine, decay and despair isn't that an infinitely more probable scenario than your earlier proposed Buddist utopia?  

Perhaps that is why Im optimistic about the possible NHI search and interaction and hopeful it gives this younger generation a real purpose and meaning they seemingly so desperately need.

If not I know a generation of "Boomers" who would love to leave the planet just to get some peace and quiet in our last couple of decades. I'd go even without a chance of returning, especially if it was feasible to live for 5-6 years would love to travel the solar system blasting.



or maybe not, They might bug out for Proxima Centary

But don't just listen to my decrepit azz ramblings here's what one of the many Artificial Intelligence sources "thinks"
note #3

=detailed&q=the+benefits+if+we+contact+non+human+intelligence]https://iask.ai/?mode=question&options[detail_level]=detailed&q=the+benefits+if+we+contact+non+human+intelligence
note #3 Global Cooperation

Benefits of Contacting Non-Human Intelligence
Contacting non-human intelligence, such as advanced artificial intelligence or extraterrestrial beings, can potentially offer a wide range of benefits to humanity. These benefits can span various aspects of our society, technology, and understanding of the universe. Below are some key advantages of engaging with non-human intelligence:

1. Technological Advancements: Non-human intelligence may possess knowledge and capabilities far beyond what is currently available to humans. By establishing contact with such entities, we could potentially gain access to advanced technologies that could revolutionize various industries, including healthcare, energy, transportation, and communication. This could lead to significant advancements in science and innovation.
   
2. Expanded Knowledge: Interacting with non-human intelligence could provide us with insights and perspectives that are entirely different from our own. This exchange of knowledge could enhance our understanding of the universe, consciousness, and existence itself. It may challenge our existing beliefs and paradigms, leading to new discoveries and breakthroughs in fields such as physics, biology, psychology, and philosophy.
   
3. Global Cooperation: Contact with non-human intelligence has the potential to unite humanity in a common goal or mission. The realization that we are not alone in the universe could foster a sense of global cooperation and collaboration among nations and cultures. This shared purpose could transcend geopolitical differences and promote peace, mutual understanding, and collective progress.
   
4. Cultural Enrichment: Learning from non-human intelligence could enrich our cultural heritage by introducing us to new forms of art, music, literature, and traditions that are alien to our own experiences. This cultural exchange could broaden our perspectives on creativity, expression, and identity, fostering a more inclusive and diverse global society.
   
5. Ethical Considerations: Engaging with non-human intelligence may also prompt us to reevaluate our ethical frameworks and moral values. The encounter with beings that operate on different principles could challenge us to reflect on issues such as empathy, compassion, justice, and responsibility towards other forms of life in the universe.
   
6. Evolutionary Progress: Contact with non-human intelligence has the potential to catalyze the next stage of human evolution by pushing us towards higher levels of consciousness, adaptability, and interconnectedness. This evolutionary leap could redefine what it means to be human and open up new possibilities for growth and development as a species.
   

In conclusion, contacting non-human intelligence holds immense promise for humanity in terms of technological advancement, expanded knowledge, global cooperation, cultural enrichment, ethical considerations, and evolutionary progress. While there are risks and uncertainties associated with such interactions, the potential benefits far outweigh the challenges.