(05-06-2024, 06:21 PM)putnam6 Wrote: What's simply false is your opinion the whole campus cares. You don't know one way or the other and have nothing but your speculations and hopes. While I've shown you evidence the protests are passionate, however, they are NOT huge in scope or ferocity and once they become disruptive they are being dealt with. NOT TO MENTION every single one of them has the presence of outside agitators not affiliated with the colleges or universities.
If overwhelmingly popular, there would be zero counter-protests, and the pro-Palestine crowds would be everywhere, not just a few hundred. Almost every university protest Ive seen has a pro-Israeli counter-protest, some of those swamp the opposing side. Polls continue to show that the Palestine infatuation is mostly 30 AND UNDER. Even under 30 strong support is less than 25% even basic support is less than 50% while opposition even under 30 is 25%
The rest of America is pro-Israel by a wide margin.
These polls in the Washington Post reflect EXACTLY my assertion that these protests so far have weak sympathetic support from the general public.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...s-polling/Americans are more likely to oppose than support campus protests in general, Americans are skeptical of protests
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Regardless, it isn't stopping anything in Israel, Gaza or even the US, hell FWIW it could make it worse.
https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1787721305938403649
IDF spokesperson updates international journalist on Rafah Operation:
- IDF has operational control of the Gazan side of Rafah Crossing.
- IDF started a precise, limited counter terrorism operation to eliminate Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups in specific area within eastern Rafah.
- IDF encouraged Rafah residents and international organizations to evacuate to designated areas.
- A vast amount of the organizations and the people in the area of eastern Rafah have moved to a safe zone.
- IDF intelligence Gaza side of Rafah crossing was being used for terrorist operations.
- Airforce and ground troops attacked terror targets in Rafah.
- Since the eastern Rafah operation has started, 20 terrorists have been eliminated, three tunnel shafts have been found.
- Keren Shalom remains closed for security reason.
- A car bomb was aimed at Israeli troops, it was eliminated.
- 162nd and 401st Brigades operating in eastern Rafah.
- Special forces operating in the Rafah Crossing area.
There would be protests and counter protests but judging from protests all over the world the anti-war movement has become very strong again.
I don't agree this is a loud minority but I will add that not everyone attends protests in our days when the internet exists and can have their views heard.
(05-05-2024, 04:46 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: As I said, if they really were 'antiwar' they wouldn't be chanting 'From the river to the sea' which is a call to war to genocide the Jews. If they really were peace activists that chant wouldn't be going on, nor would the calls of 'we are hamas' and 'we know where you live' and 'die jews die' and 'go back to Germany to the holocaust' ... and if they really were peace activists they wouldn't be chasing Jewish students through the schools causing the Jews to have to lock themselves in classrooms for safety ... and if they really were peace activists they wouldn't be blocking Jewish students from entering classrooms to attend classes that they paid for. etc etc. No, the protests are not 'antiwar' and they are not 'peaceful'.
You put everyone in the same group.
Students are diverse in their thinking and they are free to say what they think.
(05-05-2024, 03:49 PM)Blaine91555 Wrote: They can't side with Hamas without agreeing with their goals. If they can't see that, then our education system failed them which I think is true. On top of that their parents failed them. Our country failed them by allowing the schools to be taken over by wanna-be Marxists.
At what point did it become OK to simply ignore that Hamas attacked Israel and Israel is defending itself. If they do not, they will be eliminated from the planet by Hamas and Iran and all the groups Iran arms and funds.
Israel literally has no choice but to wipe out Hamas. They can't do otherwise when defending against people who want the Jews all dead and gone. It is not their fault that the sick people that the Palestinians chose to fight for them use children and women as human shields and use hospitals and schools as their headquarters.
Nobody buys the argument that its only the Zionists that they want gone.
I never would have imagined that in my lifetime I'd see American students act just like the Hitlerjugend [Image: https://denyignorance.com/images/ogemoji...nghead.gif] This is so completely different than the real Peace Movement its amazing anyone would fall for that line. Pure propaganda. Pure hate.
If we don't clean up the universities that have sold out and do it right now, the future is bleak. How do we fix an entire generation of brain washed kids?
Perhaps you need to think why american and other ethnicity students want to side with the Palestinians (not with a particular group like Hamas). They side with the weak and the persecuted.
