(05-03-2024, 01:41 PM)Blaine91555 Wrote: It's obvious you were not around in the 60s-70s or you were perhaps, but lived in a place where you did not actually know the facts other than what was in the newspapers you read.
I was around then. You have your history wrong. The Peace Movement was anti-war, not antisemitic, nor was it about hate. The Weather Underground came along and it was a violent hate group, but it involved a small number of people, and even though those violent anarchists hitched a ride on the Peace Movement, we wanted no part of them. To conflate the distinctly different parts of the 60s-70s you cannot have been directly involved.
Death to America
Long live the intifada
Death to Israeli real estate
Disrupt/Reclaim/Destroy Zionist business interests everywhere
The above are quotes from literature being passed around at the hate gatherings. I can't call it protest as only peaceful lawful protests are legal and what's happening is not legal and it's all about hate.
It's being funded and orchestrated by outside groups. The Peace Movement was something that grew organically on its own.
Follow the money on this one. As time goes on who is actually behind this will be revealed I'm sure. Hitler would have loved this. People just like him are orchestrating all of this. Hate groups recruit students because they are easy to trick as their critical thinking skills have yet to evolve. People like Mao and Hitler relied on that.
The truly sad part of this is that all those kids are ruining their futures.
And the peace movement now is against the war and not antisemitic as you said, whatever this means. If it's to call out the crimes committed by the Israeli Army and be called antisemites then you extend the definition so much that it loses all its meaning.
It's a usual tactic to call peace protesters as anarchists, communists, antiamerican, traitors, antipatriots. Nothing new here just another war and if there are some bad apples within the protestors it doesn't make the peace protests any less important. You forget, the students didn't bother anyone and didn't kill anyone, it's the people who accuse who have committed serious crimes and crimes against humanity. The US has verified there have been too many civilians killed.
(05-03-2024, 01:36 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: NO, there is no confusion. It is perfectly clear who is doing what.
Hamas and the 'palestinians' provoked a war with Israel. A stupid thing to do. They slaughtered 1200 people, mass raped men and women, burned families alive, and took 240 hostages who they tortured, starved, and raped. Many are still being held. The 'palestinian civilians' assisted, applauded, and supported this. Then the perps ran back to Gaza and hid behind their own children putting them in danger for when Israel protected itself and fought back. Israel isn't killing civilians in Gaza ... it's Hamas and their 'palestinian' supporters that are killing civilians in Gaza. None of this would be happening if they hadn't attacked Israel. None of this would be happening if they'd give up the hostages and lay down their arms. This is ALL on Hamas and the 'palestinians'.
BTW .. that 30,000 dead women and children in Gaza is Hamas propaganda and totally bogus. The math proves it is impossible. Not to mention the fact that Hamas has been caught lying about how many are dead in Gaza.
The useful idiots protesting on the college campuses are not anti-war protestors. They are chanting the genocidal chant 'From the River to the Sea' which calls for the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jews. They are shouting 'we are hamas', 'long live the infitada', 'we know where you live', 'die Jews die', 'Go back to Germany to be holocausted', etc etc and they are physically intimidating and assaulting Jewish students, and blocking their entrance to the classes they paid for. That's not 'peaceful antiwar protesting'.
If it were black students getting this kind of abuse, the country wouldn't stand for it. But since it's Jews ... somehow that makes it okay. Completely disgusting. It's nothing less than 1938 Germany behavior.
Why, do you have the real numbers and you call the number of dead bogus? To remind you for a third time that the US officials have verified there are too many civilians who have been killed in Gaza by the Israeli Armed Forces which disproves your effort to downplay the number of dead people, mainly women and children.
I don't remember saying there have been 30,000 dead civilians in Gaza. You must have picked this number from somewhere else. An actual number is difficult to give but I am sure you can rely on many sources to conclude there have been thousands and thousands who died. The US officials for example, unless you don't trust them on this matter. But again, why an ally of Israel will admit too many civilians have lost their lives in Gaza?