Columbia University has fallen

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There is some confusion of who is doing what but let me remind you it's not the students who are killing civilians at an alarming rate but the IDF in Gaza. US officials have admitted it already and I see you ignored my earlier post. John Kirby the White House Security Communications adviser said so a few days ago verifying that Israel is committing crimes against civilians. The number of dead civilians are on the tens of thousands and Israel is trying to hide the evidence but it's an impossible task.

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There is no overwhelming support for the killings of thousands of innocent civilians in Gaza, actually there is no support for this task anywhere in the world, the main reason Israel has been isolated from the rest of the world. The condemnations are a daily occurrence against the practice of mass killings in Gaza. I don't know how did you come up with the conclusion people support Israel. Nobody supports Israel when they are killing women and children.

The anti-war movement is very powerful and it doesn't include only students but students have the free will and moral obligation to protest against this massacre in Gaza. Likewise many more students and anti war protesters protest all over the world and demand and end and what is coming for the Israeli officials and military personnel , unless someone thinks they will get away with mass murder and ethnic cleansing.

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And many more after the US soldiers started killing innocent civilians and getting killed themselves by the Vietnamese.

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I appreciate your long post and the information posted but we need to be truthful to ourselves. Nobody supports crimes and mass killings from whatever side they come from and in the Gaza war the IDF has killed many more innocent civilians than Hamas. I don't try to make comparisons between who is the most lethal but crimes against humanity and war crimes have been commited by both sides. Israel has been condemned so many times I have lost count how many countries have turned against them. University students know this and everyone else knows it, unless you are really one sided.

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Some students have been arrested but most have been released. I wonder if the cops understand what is going on and if they agree to with arresting students and agree with what's happening in the middle east. I am sure some of them will probably hold the same views as the protests.

I am glad you appreciate my long post, too bad you obviously can't comprehend it even more telling that you have no links or articles to back your assertions.

Truthfully, I can cringe at the situations the innocent Gazans face, while understanding, Hamas, the authors of 10/7, have to be eliminated before Gaza can be anything else. Hamas is a cancer in their society, there will likely be others, but at the very least Hamas needs to cease to exist, considering Hamas continues to steal aid trucks from innocent Gazans, and lob mortars at US personnel building a HUMANITARIAN pier to delivery aid, it is far from accomplished.  


Since we are discussing the horrors of genocide and imperialism you've yet to comment on Sudan, why is that?

How are Sudan's atrocities off-limits for the movement?

Not one sign or chant for the Sudanese, yet the movement includes many other causes and concerns, does it not?

Are the Sudanese less human than the Gazans, respectfully Sudan has 20 times the population of Gaza? 

 War in Sudan is a crisis of epic proportions as atrocities abound

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1148791

 
Over 14,000 people have been killed and tens of thousands wounded, half the country’s population – 25 million people – need lifesaving assistance and more than 8.6 million people have been forced to flee their homes, including 1.8 million refugees.
Widespread atrocities“Allegations of atrocities abound,” she said, citing reports of widespread use of sexual violence as a weapon of war, of the recruitment of children by parties to the conflict and of extensive use of torture and prolonged arbitrary detention by both parties.

The 60s and 70s protests were about many issues including civil rights for all true or false? 

These protests have a huge element of racism and talk of the elimination of jews and Israel true or false?

Do you want Hamas to survive?

You do want the hostages returned?

The thread is about the protests here in the US not "all over the world".

They are nowhere near the size, scope, or disruptively that the 60s and 70s protests and RIOTS were. Because they are not generally supported by the American GP, just the 10-15% extremists for all causes. 

The US for better or worse plays to the beat of a different drum than any other country. Always has and hopefully always will, ironic how we loath imperialism yet we are supposed to listen to the countries whose histories are soaked in monarchies and hyper-imperialism as if now these countries have now figured it out.

Lastly here is the quotes from the NPR article about the differences in just protests for Columbia, please note the groups are all students very few outside agitators, why? because they were not needed. The students themselves were enough of a protest, that is a very important distinction. 

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/124752751...24-history

Several issues were at stake in 1968For many Columbia students in 1968, their protest was motivated by anger over the Vietnam War — and changes to the military draft that were chipping away at students' deferments, particularly in graduate schools. Just as DBCowboy pointed out
 
The radical group Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) also opposed Columbia's links to the Institute for Defense Analyses — a think tank researching and analyzing weapons and strategies to use in Vietnam. They also wanted the CIA and military services barred from on-campus recruiting.

But others, especially the Society of Afro-American Students (SAS), were also upset that Columbia University was moving ahead with plans to take over part of a public park in Harlem, to build a gym that critics said would give only limited and second-class access to the local community.
 "They were building it in Morningside Park, one of the few green spaces in Harlem," former Columbia student and current SUNY law professor Eleanor Stein told NPR's Michel Martin. "And we felt that it couldn't be business as usual, that the university itself was engaging in an indefensible takeover of Harlem land and an indefensible participation and complicity with the Vietnam War effort."
White and Black students coordinated a protest against the gym — and then hundreds of students moved from there to take over office and classroom buildings, enforcing a strike against the school.

https://x.com/MarshaBlackburn/status/178...9187517478

 All the while we continue to hear evidence of outside and foreign influence in the 2024 protests, another element missing from the 60s and 70s college protests 

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