(02-17-2024, 08:37 PM)Maxmars Wrote: First off - THANK YOU...
I think that it's important to determine the specifics. And also, it bears mentioning that they are not hiding the data. So I apologize, unnecessarily maybe, to all you statistically inclined folks out there who know that the problems aren't in the math.
But perhaps more importantly, aside from the specifics, it shows that information consumerism has led to a point in public affairs where people can be manipulated, and that is only amplified by ignorance, which we must eliminate, contextually speaking. Debate has a civic purpose... its chief strength is that it can't be directly controlled without obvious tyranny. Since the information we receive seems to be in lieu of debate, the debate is 'crafted.'
You are most correct, I think, that if there were a serious-minded discussion or debate about secession, it might just educate us all. Too bad no one will join me in the debate forum.
Any time I hit something that seems "odd" (those seemed like BIG over the top numbers; I've never heard secession discussed seriously here in Texas), I go out and look up the source...and then see how trusted the source is.
I'd be happy to discuss the pros and cons of secession.
(02-18-2024, 01:07 PM)Kenzo Wrote: It`s bit complicated issue ( in my head ) ....or lets say that i think secession in USA would might not be a good idea , thought i am not living there , so my views are not so high value
Buuut, in countries like Russia....i would want secession right this second , but thats another country
If i have the power ( dictator ) i had all Indigenous peoples live in their own setup, own currency ....and own country with no mix to others....but that`s late now
If you ask me , i think the whole EU was mistake ,as like what it has come. We only need security cooperation , and NATO was allready there to do that , so yeah....a mistake. All European countries should have stayed as were just after WW2 , except the East germany/ ex-soviet which were ruled by USSR ,occupyed .
I would like to hear what UK citizen think about post-brexit etc....
There were other benefits... easy access to workers when needed and a unified currency (so there's none of the monetary loss when you exchange one currency for another.)
Mind you, that's just the 'brief thought about the issue' and not any serious consideration.