12-30-2024, 04:54 AM
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(12-22-2024, 02:22 AM)Sirius Wrote: It's easy to ridicule primitives dancing around a fire because your not having the experience. Just another church scam, weirdo's falling down on the floor having seizures etc. You get guys that travels all the way to the amazon jungle to trip on DMT with a shaman, you don't have to do that... Just get some mates and drums, make a fire.. It's ancient magic, works all over.
One of the things this leads to is that when someone tells me they called out to Jesus and he saved them, I believe it.
You called him in a moment where you had intense turmoil, you met the conditions physiologically and physically. You summoned an entity and that entity is Jesus and now you are going to have an awakening experience with him. This is your path now.
What happens when you call something else? Well then you have that awakening experience and follow
Yeah but
I didn’t have a call out moment
I didn’t have an intense turmoil moment, I didn’t have a DMt/shaman
I didn’t have an experience
I just asked and made a choice to believe
Still do believe and still havnt had this “experience”, this awakening you infer
Just sheer determination to hold onto faith that seems elusive and to be honest, I understand why the bible calls to Christs followers to have faith
Mostly Christian faith lacks what you indicate as the reason