10-21-2024, 11:15 AM
This post was last modified 10-21-2024, 11:44 AM by IdeomotorPrisoner. 
(10-19-2024, 06:24 PM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: So let's cut through all the bullshit. Do GUNS kill people, OR do the (twisted) PEOPLE who use guns kill people unlawfully?
I'm so sick of this debate. It's not even a "debate" really, it's more of a liberal echo chamber on the subject.
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Take care all!!
Long answer.
Gun control laws (and the push for them) are like banning sale of cough medicine to minors and moving it behind the counter after too many teenagers die from abusing it for its dissociative anesthetic effects.
It's Monday morning quarterback regulation to limit abuse outside intended purposes in hindsight. It's fueled by the stages of grief. All it takes is one parent sick of the permissibility of the thing they choose to blame for their loss. It's more direct than any mental health issue that led to its misuse. Limiting access is just more direct to feeling better.
All stats in the world fall on grief stricken ears.
"If only they didn't have easy access to an AR they might have not been able to get to my daughters class room and she'd still be alive." Stuff like that.
And then it's up to the crocodile tears of those that listen. And some media is all too happy to put them on to call attention to why they think their kid is dead. And what needs to change.
Heston's hands are cold and dead there. And one too many ever-popular AR powered mass shootings outweighs all else. There are triple and quadruple homicides daily from gang violence and handguns. They VASTLY outnumber much rarer incidents of an assault rifle rampages.
But those shootings seem to start at 'quadruple' and escalate. Like 13 dead, 26 injured. Or 61 dead, 837 injured in it's most extreme yet recorded case. In that case, the argument is that it couldn't have been done from the Mandalay Bay penthouse without at-military grade weaponry being available. And it sticks out for casualty count and deadly capability when used by evil.
Pro gun lobby may say: "ARs are used for small game. And even if they weren't it's my upheld constitutional right to operate a well maintained militia, which entails rivaling the weapons of any tyrannical government soldier."
Gun control advocate says: "Oh use a .22 long rifle to shoot squirrels and quit trying to arm yourself like a goddamn paramilitary soldier because you fear government tyranny at any time now."
Gun lobby retorts: "Ain't that just the plan?"
I'm not pro weapons ban, but Jim-Bob a la Deliverance doesnt need one for them varmits unless he qualifies to own it.
I think the criteria for owning the contentious assault weapon should be:
• 21 year or older
• no criminal record (Including assault and domestic violence misdemeanors within 7 years)
• psyche evaluation/no 5150s
• prerequisite training course run by certified professional.
• Registration in a dangerous weapon database.
* Like how you need to register a LEGAL RPG with the ATF as a destructive device in a process that disqualifies ALL bad seeds by the approval process alone.
Just my opinion. Don't hate me for it.