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Old and New Testament, and Koran, as a mystical Egyptian initiation
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(05-30-2026, 02:47 PM)Randyvine Wrote: On the fence- *I don't care, I'm not trying to convince you of anything.

I never said anything about proving anything exists.

I find it phenomenal how people lose comprehension regarding theology.

"That argument basically boils down to "the story contains miracles, therefore the miracles are true
And by that logic, the more absurd the claim, the more convincing it becomes."


Exactly! Because it is illogical to use allegorymetaphors, lies and fantasy and expect to
be taken seriously.

Do you not think the authors were serious? I'm sure you see the point.

You scoff at one particular account in the Bible as if God isn't capable of ventriloquism.

And by that kind of logic I'm sure you have a problem with Moses parting the red sea
and on down the line of everything God can do over man ACCORDING to what IS WRITTEN.
The only thing I am proving is that you want a different story that suits you personally. Once
again good luck with that.

The point is The Story not the existence of anything.
 You have basically wandered into the exact problem you're trying to solve.
 
You say "The point is the story, not the existence of anything."

And yet five minutes ago, you were arguing that talking donkeys are more believable because they're written seriously. LoL

Which is it?

Is the point that the events happened, or that the story presents them as meaningful?
 
Nobody is asking for a "different story." 

But one where the ""authors"" sincerity is evidence that the events occurred might be nice.
 
People can be completely serious and still be mistaken, Randyvine...

History is full of sincere people who believed in the likes of witchcraft, omens, dragons, orgone's, and all sorts of crazy mumbo jumbo we now reject.
 
And the ventriloquist argument is comedy gold.

If God can make a donkey talk because he's ""omnipotent?""

Thats a hell of a big magic escape hatch you have created where every claim becomes true by definition.

At that point, you've stopped arguing and started granting yourself infinite DLC powers.
 
The irony is that you're accusing others of rewriting the story while rewriting the rules yourself.

Just because you imagine the ""author"" was serious, It doesn't mean he was right.
 
Otherwise, every religion wins simultaneously.

Which would be a neat trick, considering they are not all claiming the same things, or anything reminiscent of the sorts...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."



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RE: Old and New Testament, and Koran, as a mystical Egyptian initiation - by andy06shake - 05-30-2026, 03:00 PM