Classical Vs Contemporary

[UltraBudgie]

I often think on the possibility that we (as in 'humans') have inherited a sense of the 'parameters' of the infinite.

Hermetic philosophies have frequently been presented as 'secrets.'  Maybe because cultural biases and pressures forced those studying them to isolate themselves and their studies (to become "hermetic.")

Now some people used that moniker to foster an air of "mystery" over the topics, but effectively they may have been so far ahead of the "mainstream" as to render their ideas into an air of "so exotic as to be nonsense."

Haha yes sealed away like a hermit in his cave -- hermetic! I remember going oooh when I realized that it was referring to Hermes Trismegistus the guy who wrote that tablet about emeralds the "triple threat" which is what trismegistus means because he understood magic, grammer, and marketing. Hes also a mason hero because he used tablets instead of scrolls. I think he was syncretic but whether he was from crete or egypt he certainly had a big influence on ancient philosophy! Nowadays hermetic means sort of sealed up in a jar yes, but also for secrets that keep themselves, like governemtn funding.

I remember Tesla, in particular, trying to assert - and remaining virtually unheard - that the factual "key" to accessing the infinite energy permeating everywhere was "vibrations and harmony."  I can't help but find the direction of modern science following his footsteps... all while still 'labeling' Tesla as "not entirely all there."  He demonstrated so many principles that have been fed upon by so many... but when he said "the people of the entire planet will have all the power they could ever possibly need, virtually for free" he was rendered anathema in his own society.  Yet today, if all of his discoveries were magically eliminated, billions of our world might be dead.

Tesla was certainly an odd bird I think it was the pidgeon thing. Modern science knows pidgeons are for plucking, and grants. He did understand vibration and harmony deeply and with intuition, I think he wasn't burdened by so many established models and instead just looked at how things were in the world and his head inside and out, like htri said. Probably inspired by newton in that way who was totally hermetic in the sense that you don't get laid and actually did as much alchemy as apple tossing! I do think the 3-6-9 stuff from tesla was a little out there maybe they were his lottery numbers and he was bitter when they never came up.

Most of the principle I was alluding to were  the ilk of the Vedas, bodies of work of Hermeticism, and even others less well known... (and there are so many that I don't know about... I'm far removed from the notional title "expert.")

The vedas are great easpecially if you need lots of books to keep paper flat and they're full of wisdom. They were way ahead of their time in wordcount and the modern technique of making lists of things and using huge numbers until your opponents eyes glaze over. Their early descriptions of the Sayta Yuga ("age of wisdom") were also an early inspiration for the maga movement.

From early on it has been somehow reported in what we call "antiquity" that the nature of our reality is not simple material interaction... that understanding came from somewhere... it was not now, nor has it ever been "discovered;"  because we've been talking about this for ages.  "Science" historians have sidelined too many concepts and ideas over what they could reproduce locally, and it is costing us time...

There's nothing new under the sun, as someone once said, although I think they might have plagerized that quote. The whole idea of the novus ordo secularum was basically to take all this ancient knowledge and rewrite it in a framework where they could use lots of elegant little diagrams with numbers and arrows, instead of pictures of people with beards and winged sandals, to explain everything. Although some of the cooler physicists do still wear sandals, I must admit, but they don't date fawning art students near as much as those guys in ancient times.

The continuous cross connection between all things that exist is another 'migration' science thinkers have exhibited... while maintaining it's their own genius that's responsible for the 'discovery.'

But for some reason scientist seem to be hesitant to tackle "chirality"... we'll soon see if the ancient thinkers had indeed already 'gone there' - not that the science community will ever acknowledge that.

That would require looking in a mirror, and you don't get near as much youtube time if you're all hung up on doing that yourself. Reflection is for followers; on twitter doubly so.

Thanks so much for opening up this topic!