11-17-2025, 04:21 PM
(11-17-2025, 04:10 PM)3rdrockfrmsun Wrote: That’s a great way to frame it — technofascism and technofeudalism are definitely close cousins to what the Dark Enlightenment ends up looking like in practice, even if Yarvin and the NRx crowd try to dress it up as something more “rational” or “efficient.” What sets NRx apart a little bit is that it isn’t just about letting technology run society or having experts in charge — it goes a step further into outright anti-democracy, like replacing elected government with a CEO-monarch model where citizens become more like shareholders (or even tenants) than participants.
Where you mentioned technofeudalism, that’s actually the end state Yarvin and Nick Land basically describe: fragmented “patchwork” territories run by corporate entities, each with their own laws, and people just move around like serfs shopping for the best overlord. They frame it as “choice” but it’s the same logic as breaking up the nation-state and replacing it with competing fiefdoms. So your instinct isn’t far off at all.
I’m with you on the irony of the people pushing this stuff. On one hand they say “meritocracy,” but on the other hand a lot of these so-called elites are just surfing asset bubbles, venture capital luck, or insider connections. It’s the same class of people who want a world with no democratic accountability but full freedom for themselves to experiment, disrupt, and consolidate power — while everyone else gets “ordered liberty” and fewer choices.
And the part you said about personal autonomy hits the nail on the head. Most people aren’t calling for pure anarchy — just a system where ordinary people still have a meaningful say in how society works, and where creativity and innovation are rewarded instead of being monopolized by a tiny class of self-appointed geniuses. The Dark Enlightenment sells itself as “merit + innovation,” but once you peel back the layers, it’s really about locking in power, not distributing it.
What’s interesting is that the NRx crowd sees people like you — who believe in structured autonomy, personal responsibility, and merit with guardrails — as “the problem,” because you still believe the public should have some sovereignty. To them, any system that allows regular citizens to influence outcomes “inevitably decays.” So they want to skip straight to the solution: corporate monarchy.
The average person under 30 has no hope; no hope of owning a home, no hope of paying off loans, no hope of upward mobillity, and now not even much hope of owning real physical objects.
The same asshats pushing this kind of nonsensical inhuman system, (and getting Progressive idiots to support it because they are obsessed with AI, technology, and 'equity') are the same ones who jumpstarted this nightmare with COVID operation, and want datacentres everywhere.
We all know that the tighter the grip, the more broken the system, as all the little pieces crack and nothing functions.
Kind of like now. But They are trying to use people's intelligent lack of trust in Institutions (due to their corruption and obvious lying and patronising/infantalising to the public) as some kind of sign and symptom that these same Institutions need to be torn down and replaced by technofeudal overlording, not simply slimmed down, fixed to run logically, and 'classically' .
