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Parents are killing their unborn children to make jewelry
#41
(11-07-2025, 05:24 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Not really.   When someone dies and you get their ashes, you haven't purposely killed them.   That's what happens with this IVF jewelry ... the parents opt to kill the babies and then display their dead remains in jewelry.

Well I believe in an afterlife where the soul chooses the body they will inhabit but once it knows the intentions of the destruction or ultimate death of the vessel, it can then choose to not inhabit it.

The parents' aim is to create a child and the IVF method which, by its nature/procedure, destroys life. But to the people trying to make a child it appears they think that it's worth the death of multiple embryos and because I am not in their shoes and don't really know how they feel (as you don't either, but think that you do) for them to want to keep the remains as people do with loved ones' ashes, this seems more like an honoring or respecting the dead.

Have you found any more information on this company, such as yearly sales numbers? I'm curious to see how and why they stay in business.

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"IVF embryo keepsakes offer a meaningful way to honor the journey of fertility, with options ranging from personalized jewelry to timeline signs.Creating Keepsakes from IVF Embryos
  1. Jewelry from Embryos: Companies like Blossom Keepsake specialize in crafting unique jewelry pieces using unused IVF embryos. This process involves treating the embryos with care and transforming them into handcrafted items that families can cherish. The service includes sending an inclusion pack to securely send embryos, with a typical lead time of 8–10 weeks for the creation of the keepsake. 


  2. Ethical Considerations: The practice of creating jewelry from IVF embryos has sparked ethical debates. Critics argue that it commodifies human life and raises moral dilemmas about the treatment of embryos. Some view it as a disturbing trend, while others see it as a way for families to commemorate their fertility journey. 


  3. Alternative Keepsakes: Besides jewelry, there are other options like personalized IVF timeline signs that document the journey from embryo creation to due date. These signs serve as heartfelt reminders of the milestones in the IVF process and can be used for fertility announcements or nursery decor. 


  4. Marketplace Options: Platforms like Etsy offer a variety of IVF keepsakes, including custom items that can be tailored to individual stories and experiences. This allows families to find unique, handmade pieces that resonate with their journey. 


  5. Bespoke Services: Companies such as Baby Bee Hummingbirds create bespoke jewelry from extra IVF embryos, allowing parents to keep a tangible memory of their journey. This service emphasizes the emotional significance of the keepsake, providing a way to celebrate motherhood and the IVF experience. 

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Would You Turn Your Extra IVF Embryos Into Jewellery?
"The only journey is the one within."
#42
(11-07-2025, 09:54 AM)quintessentone Wrote:  But to the people trying to make a child it appears they think that it's worth the death of multiple embryos and because I am not in their shoes and don't really know how they feel (as you don't either, but think that you do) for them to want to keep the remains as people do with loved ones' ashes, this seems more like an honoring or respecting the dead.
You missed the entire point .. not surprised.   It isn't the 'death of multiple embryos', it's the death of their children and it's the fault of the parents.   If they honored or respected the dead child, they wouldn't have killed them to begin with.
#43
(11-07-2025, 09:43 AM)Bootless Wrote: It seems correct to state that there is a difference in the death of one you have interacted with as a person and the disposal or keeping of 4-6 cells.

It doesn't matter if the parent had interacted with the child or not ... and it doesn't matter how developed that child is ... it's their child and they killed him or  her.   Now they are going to display the dead childs remains in jewelry.   It's a total disrespect for the child and gross beyond words.
#44
(11-07-2025, 10:28 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: You missed the entire point .. not surprised.   It isn't the 'death of multiple embryos', it's the death of their children and it's the fault of the parents.   If they honored or respected the dead child, they wouldn't have killed them to begin with.

You missed my entire point...not surprised either.

It's death of a vessel not a soul.
"The only journey is the one within."
#45
(11-07-2025, 10:30 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It's death of a vessel not a soul.
By that attitude every murder on the planet is just fine because 
it's just killing the body and not the soul.

It's murder of a child by the parent.
It's the display of the dead childs remains in jewelry.
It's disrespectful and it's gross.
#46
(11-07-2025, 10:32 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: By that attitude every murder on the planet is just fine because 
it's just killing the body and not the soul.

It's murder of a child by the parent.
It's the display of the dead childs remains in jewelry.
It's disrespectful and it's gross.

As I said, it is believed that the soul can flee the body once intentions of destruction or death of vessel is known.

Souls inhabit living bodies, so your comparison fails.

Well it's disrespectful and gross to you and I wouldn't do it, but these companies are staying in business somehow, so for many they look at this practice differently than you do.
"The only journey is the one within."
#47
(11-07-2025, 10:36 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Souls inhabit living bodies, so your comparison fails.
Nope.   Souls inhabit the body as soon as it's conceived.
And that tiny developing body IS alive.   
So you fail.
#48
(11-07-2025, 10:40 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Nope.   Souls inhabit the body as soon as it's conceived.
And that tiny developing body IS alive.   
So you fail.

Well we disagree on that and actually neither you or I really know what is the reality, it's only what we believe in, as do those IVF parents.
"The only journey is the one within."
#49
(11-07-2025, 10:41 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Well we disagree on that and actually neither you or I really know what is the reality, it's only what we believe in, as do those IVF parents.


You Liberals should really make up your minds.

For years we have watched you guys mock religious people of faith and now all this talk of souls and the after life?

No credibility at all.
#50
(11-07-2025, 11:15 AM)RazorV66 Wrote: You Liberals should really make up your minds.

For years we have watched you guys mock religious people of faith and now all this talk of souls and the after life?

No credibility at all.

I am not a liberal and speak only from my beliefs on the before and after life not any political stance. Give it a rest man, not everything has to be political.
"The only journey is the one within."



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