Assassination or Assisted Suicide?

[guyfriday]

The words on the bullet casings refer to insurance tactics "delay deny defend"
https://apnews.com/article/unitedhealthc...4a3b88c50c

I agree with this too, but the book title can't be ignored either. The shooter might have done that as a red herring. Something else that needs to be addressed. The firearm used.
Manhunt for UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson's killer enters second day — here's what major clues investigators are looking at

The killer may have used a modern version of a rare World War II spy gun, and investigators hope to track down its purchase, sources told The Post.
The gun used by the shooter in the slaying outside the Hilton hotel on Sixth Avenue appears to be a B&T VP9, an update of the Welrod pistol — a suppressed firearm developed in the Second World War, sources said.

pictured firearm from linked story below:


this being stated, I'll link to a youtube video about a persons opinion about this:

(3655) United Healthcare: Not a Welrod - YouTube


As well as the video of the well rod being used:


Now given that the unfired casings seem to have been collected from these malfunctions, I will say that the failures to fire might have been planned in order to get the "deny", "Depose", "Defend" message out there, but as for the story of the firearm being a VP-9 I will agree with the "Forgotten Weapons guy in the linked video as to why it doesn't fit.

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Mod edit - Encia22 - Embedded YT video

[guyfriday]

Just following up on this after doing the break thing.
Luigi Mangione, UnitedHealthcare CEO murder suspect in custody: Live updates

Luigi Mangione, 26, is being held without bail in Pennsylvania as cops suspect he’s the shooter who killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in broad daylight outside a midtown Manhattan hotel on Dec. 4.
 
Mangione, a Maryland native, was arraigned on weapons charges Monday evening after being arrested that morning when a McDonald’s worker at an Altoona, Pa., franchise recognized him as he ate at the restaurant.

So, I guess at this point we have to wait to see why the shooting took place, and what the motivation was.

[guyfriday]

So, it seems things have gone a bit weird,
Luigi Mangione, suspect in fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO, reported missing by family after back surgery

The suspect in UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s slaying was reported missing by his family last month after he lost touch with them following a recent back surgery, according to sources and reports.
 
Luigi Mangione, 26, was captured in Altoona, Pennsylvania, on Monday after he was spotted eating at a McDonald’s by an employee of the fast food restaurant who believed he resembled the gunman wanted over last week’s brazen shooting outside a Manhattan hotel.
 
Mangione — an Ivy League graduate from a prominent Maryland real estate family — was found carrying a ghost gun, masks and rambling writings linking him to the ambush, authorities said.

There's something off, MKUltra off, about this guy. I might be wrong, but damn it sure seems off.

The suspect, who was born and raised in Maryland, has ties to San Francisco and a last known address in Honolulu, according to cops.
 
Meanwhile, one of his former classmates at the Gilman School in Baltimore told the New York Times that Mangione’s peers were forwarded a message earlier this year because the suspect’s family was trying to find him.
 
The classmate, Aaron Cranston, said the message indicated Mangione hadn’t been in touch with relatives since undergoing back surgery several months prior, the outlet reported.

They are saying that that his motivation might have been from a surgery he received on his lower back. An X-Ray has been provided: 

I'm not an expert but does this even look right? I mean those screws would have destroyed his spine by the way they appear. Why go after the Insurer, when this damage would have been the fault of the medical team? 

That thing that made me feel like this was a Soylent Green type of killing is still there, but something's being covered up and that something is what smells. I guess that answers this thread, looks like an assassination has taken place. Now the question is why and who?

[Encia22]

Apparently, he suffered from spondylolisthesis.

From https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/spondylolisthesis/
 

Spondylolisthesis is where one of the bones in your spine, called a vertebra, slips forward. It can be painful, but there are treatments that can help.

It may happen anywhere along the spine, but is most common in the lower back.

Here is the typical surgery done to correct the spine.

From: https://www.spine-health.com/treatment/s...-back-pain
 

Multilevel Spinal Fusion for Low Back Pain

A multilevel spinal fusion surgery involves fusing 2 or more motion segments of the spine to become one single unit. This surgery is designed to improve spinal stability and reduce pain in conditions that cause spinal malalignment or spinal degeneration. 

And here are images that show how the segments are fused together.



Is it possible that the travelling around the country was in search of a good surgeon to do the operation? With his family wealth, he could afford to pay the best of the best.

[guyfriday]

Apparently, he suffered from spondylolisthesis.

From https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/spondylolisthesis/
 


Here is the typical surgery done to correct the spine.

From: https://www.spine-health.com/treatment/s...-back-pain
 


And here are images that show how the segments are fused together.



Is it possible that the travelling around the country was in search of a good surgeon to do the operation? With his family wealth, he could afford to pay the best of the best.

Given that the second picture there has four screws in it, I would assume that's what his X-Ray is supposed to be showing, but instead of four separate spine bones, the screws all seem to have been put into just two. Shouldn't he have gone after the surgeon if this was the main issue the guy had?

Going after the insurer doesn't make any sense at this point. Guy is a college grad, comes from a wealthy family, but doesn't know who to go after in what appears to be medical malpractice? Then the Ivy-League Schooling mentioning. This really reads like a typical MKUltra mess more than anything else. 

Let's say that the images in the article are from this guy, and the insurer wasn't going to allow any new surgeries. It's still a medical malpractice suit. So why go after the CEO of of the insurance company?

[UltraBudgie]

Luigi Mangione

well i was trying to see if "Luigi Mangione" was an anagram of "Lone Gunman", but it wasn't.

The best I could find was "Omega Linguini".

[Encia22]

well i was trying to see if "Luigi Mangione" was an anagram of "Lone Gunman", but it wasn't.

The best I could find was "Omega Linguini".

Even better... ENIGMA LUIGINO 

[guyfriday]

I've been reading that one of the reasons behind the shooting was that Mangione was upset over a lack of sex. Really? Is Incel going to be a reason that those agencies are pushing for these random acts of violence again?

This shooting needs to be looked at even closer at this point. The points that got made at the beginning that linked Pelosi and insider trading might have more to do than this guy and a lack of sex.

[UltraBudgie]

If you haven't seen it, manifesto.

It's short, 262 words, so I'll quote it here:

“To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”

Supposedly verified:

[UltraBudgie]

There is also a 'fake' manifesto making the rounds, which can be read here: The Allopathic Complex and Its Consequences

The substack that published it has been suspended. You can see here, from the one snapshot that archive.org has of it, that it was made between midnight and 1am on the 10th.