What they are saying in Russia about Trump's victory

[RussianTroll]

Hello DI!

The US presidential elections are over! I have never interfered in discussions about this or that candidate either on ATS or on DI regarding the elections, so as not to be accused of "Russian interference" again. Although everyone who felt like it interfered in the American elections - from the British to the Papuans-Ukrainians. But... this is sacred, this is different. Okay.

Now that everything has ended well, I want to express some of my thoughts. Thank God that there were no clashes and especially no civil war. Those forum participants who remember me from the ATS days remember that I constantly warned Americans about such scenarios, showing what could happen using the example of my Russia. My prayers worked at this stage, I am glad. And I congratulate all Americans on this.

Now about Russian expectations. There is no euphoria in Russia. We all remember very well that it was under Trump that the two current wars were prepared - in Ukraine and in the Middle East. In Ukraine, it was Trump who first authorized the supply of lethal offensive weapons to the regime in Ukraine. It was also Trump who moved the US embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, which serves as the trigger for the conflict. And he also broke the peace agreement with Iran. In addition, it was under Trump that the most extensive deterioration in diplomatic relations with Russia occurred, which began with the expulsion of dozens of Russian diplomats under a far-fetched pretext and the confiscation of Russian diplomatic property.

So there are no illusions. Russia is facing times of tough negotiations. There is no place for ultimatums here, but only for the interests of both countries. So the counter euphoria that Trump will now order Putin, and he will immediately agree to everything - in the trash bin. Putin is not the equal of European leaders who can simply be ordered. Russia cannot be defeated by force, and threatening it is useless. We need to negotiate taking into account the interests of all. The West should finally understand this. At the same time, many Western media outlets write that Putin will begin negotiations from a position of prevailing power. Possibly.

So we are in for long, tedious, and not always productive negotiations. But it is still better than nothing. Moreover, the US and Russia have many points of contact, on the basis of which agreements are possible. I hope that the times of artificially imposed multiculturalism, gender diversity, Satanism, atheism and hatred on national grounds are ending. A simple American worker, a farmer who believes in God, loves his family, his children, his country, honors his parents and his flag, is much closer to a Russian person. We are the same. On this basis, we need to look for points of mutual understanding and trust.

That's all in brief.

Thank you.

[xpert11]

RussianTroll, what do you wish to see from Trump's policy toward Putin's war in Ukraine? Do you think a Munich-style agreement is in the works?

Russia is or will employ North Korean troops in Ukraine. My take is those North Koreans are expendable and ensure Putin faces less political pressure at home. How does that development square with your beliefs? Does North Korea's involvement in Ukraine impact the war's outcome?

"Diversity" isn't a new concept and is a war-winner. The British Empire forces that contributed to the defeat of the Axis Powers included the Indian Army (abolished in 1947) and West African troops. Of course, Hitler's Germany's defeat is among that mix.

[Anna]

There is no euphoria in Russia. We all remember very well that it was under Trump that the two current wars were prepared - in Ukraine and in the Middle East. In Ukraine, it was Trump who first authorized the supply of lethal offensive weapons to the regime in Ukraine. It was also Trump who moved the US embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, which serves as the trigger for the conflict. And he also broke the peace agreement with Iran. In addition, it was under Trump that the most extensive deterioration in diplomatic relations with Russia occurred, which began with the expulsion of dozens of Russian diplomats under a far-fetched pretext and the confiscation of Russian diplomatic property.

I admit I didn't know about it all.
I guess you wanted to console me. Much appreciated. Thanks. I'm feeling better now.

[Kurokage]

Well the State run media seem to have a different opinion??

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/197...os-outrage

Fri, Nov 8, 2024.
Melania Trump nude photos outrage in primetime broadcast on Russian TVRussian state TV has attempted to mock Melania Trump's nude pics, sparking fury among supporters.Russia-1 network broadcast the images from the former First Lady's British GQ shoot in 2000 on its 60 Minutes programme.
Russian Media Monitor creator Julia Davis shared a clip of the show on X, with presenter Yevgeny Popov explaining how Mrs Trump will be preparing to return to the White House.

The news item was met with fury on social media, with one X-user quoted by the same publication as saying: "Russia is laughing at us."
Another said: "Putin [is] flexing his power over Trump and by extension our country."

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-tv-dona...24-1950669

Sep 09, 2024
Guests on Russian state TV mocked Donald Trump's reaction to Russian President Vladimir Putin smirkingly saying that he was endorsing Kamala Harris in the 2024 election.
The remarks were made by state TV host Vladimir Solovyov, one of the most prominent figures in Kremlin-backed media, and Margarita Simonyan, the editor-in-chief of the state-controlled media organization RT. An excerpt of the state TV broadcast was posted on X, formerly Twitter, by Julia Davis, the founder of the Russia Media Monitor watchdog group, on Sunday.
 
On Saturday, Trump told a rally in Wisconsin that he was "very offended" by Putin's comments.
"I knew Putin. I knew him well. And you know, he endorsed, I don't know if you saw the other day, he endorsed Kamala. He endorsed Kamala. I was very offended by that," Trump said.
"In the U.S., they think we care about the elections. Idiots, we care about your civil war! May you, political dirtbags, kill one another!" said Solovyov. "You are so pathetic and laughable. Honestly speaking, I was a bit disheartened, unless Trump is joking, I was saddened by Trump's reaction."
 
President Joe Biden withdrew from the race in July.
"I told you our favorite, if you can call it that, was President Biden. He's now out of the race, but he asked his supporters to back Ms. Harris, so we'll do the same," Putin said at the economic forum on September 5.

[RussianTroll]

RussianTroll, what do you wish to see from Trump's policy toward Putin's war in Ukraine? Do you think a Munich-style agreement is in the works?

Russia is or will employ North Korean troops in Ukraine. My take is those North Koreans are expendable and ensure Putin faces less political pressure at home. How does that development square with your beliefs? Does North Korea's involvement in Ukraine impact the war's outcome?

"Diversity" isn't a new concept and is a war-winner. The British Empire forces that contributed to the defeat of the Axis Powers included the Indian Army (abolished in 1947) and West African troops. Of course, Hitler's Germany's defeat is among that mix.

Hello! Let's clarify the initial data for your questions, they will help you understand Russian logic and my answers.

1. In Ukraine, there is a war not between Russia and Ukraine, but between NATO and Russia. All civilized countries in the world already understand this. Hence the logical outcome of the war - who should negotiate with each other.

2. So far, no one has seen North Korean fighters in Russia and Ukraine. When/if they appear, then a substantive discussion can take place. There is a mutual agreement between Russia and North Korea, one of the points of which is point 5 of the NATO treaty on mutual military assistance. This agreement has normal international significance according to international law. So the complaints about North Korean troops are nothing more than complaints. Everything is legitimate. This is in case troops appear somewhere, I will not comment on Western fakes and provocations.
According to your logic, Ukrainian troops are expendable material in the war against Russia. Let's avoid double standards.
What about some "political pressure inside the country", unlike Ukraine, where there is a banal catching of men and forced mobilization, in Russia the army is replenished by volunteers. This is a big difference for understanding the morale of society and the army.

[RussianTroll]

I admit I didn't know about it all.
I guess you wanted to console me. Much appreciated. Thanks. I'm feeling better now.

Hi! Thanks for the discussion)))

[Kurokage]

Hello! Let's clarify the initial data for your questions, they will help you understand Russian logic and my answers.

1. In Ukraine, there is a war not between Russia and Ukraine, but between NATO and Russia. All civilized countries in the world already understand this. Hence the logical outcome of the war - who should negotiate with each other.

2. So far, no one has seen North Korean fighters in Russia and Ukraine. When/if they appear, then a substantive discussion can take place. There is a mutual agreement between Russia and North Korea, one of the points of which is point 5 of the NATO treaty on mutual military assistance. This agreement has normal international significance according to international law. So the complaints about North Korean troops are nothing more than complaints. Everything is legitimate. This is in case troops appear somewhere, I will not comment on Western fakes and provocations.
According to your logic, Ukrainian troops are expendable material in the war against Russia. Let's avoid double standards.
What about some "political pressure inside the country", unlike Ukraine, where there is a banal catching of men and forced mobilization, in Russia the army is replenished by volunteers. This is a big difference for understanding the morale of society and the army.

1. No there is no war between Nato and Russia. Thats just pure propaganda by the you and the Kremlin to make Russians fear the west.

2 really?

[Kurokage]

 in Russia the army is replenished by volunteers. This is a big difference for understanding the morale of society and the army.

Really, from 2 years ago and there's plenty of these videos out there.....





You appear to lie in every single thread you post.  

[RussianTroll]

An American citizen working for Russia in Ukraine was evacuated to Russia

[Kurokage]

An American citizen working for Russia in Ukraine was evacuated to Russia

I thought the title of your thread was "What they are saying in Russia about Trump's victory" what does posting a link to your other thread have to do with this discussion? Old habits of drifting your threads are still about I see.

Don't you have anything to say about what the Russian state controlled media are saying about Trump? Maybe you have something to say about my rebuke of your false statements?