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The occult nature of weaponized hypocrisy
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Matthew 7:2
For by whatever verdict you pass judgment you shall be judged, and in whatever measure you measure it shall be meted out to you.

What do you think of this verse? Does is describe an actual "supernatural" force that is active in the world? Or is it just aspirational advice?

If this effect is divinely or metaphysically enforced, could it be weaponized? I am thinking about how there are so many targets of hate presented by the media, invitations to judge that are given us. What if, by judging based on incomplete evidence or emotion, we are actually giving some sort of spiritual power to those who would rule over us in this world, because our judgment must, by necessity, rebound? Perhaps hypocrisy is being "farmed". Unfairly judge others for their oppression, and end up being oppressed ourselves. Does God see that as being "only fair"?

There is also the view of jumping to judgment as growing a Hegelian dialectic on unprovable ground, introducing an irresolvable chain of possible contradiction that serves only to muddy the waters, and make effective public discourse impossible. So perhaps it's not worth mentioning at all? Lol
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(11-01-2024, 08:34 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Matthew 7:2
For by whatever verdict you pass judgment you shall be judged, and in whatever measure you measure it shall be meted out to you.

What do you think of this verse? Does is describe an actual "supernatural" force that is active in the world? Or is it just aspirational advice?

If this effect is divinely or metaphysically enforced, could it be weaponized? I am thinking about how there are so many targets of hate presented by the media, invitations to judge that are given us. What if, by judging based on incomplete evidence or emotion, we are actually giving some sort of spiritual power to those who would rule over us in this world, because our judgment must, by necessity, rebound? Perhaps hypocrisy is being "farmed". Unfairly judge others for their oppression, and end up being oppressed ourselves. Does God see that as being "only fair"?

There is also the view of jumping to judgment as growing a Hegelian dialectic on unprovable ground, introducing an irresolvable chain of possible contradiction that serves only to muddy the waters, and make effective public discourse impossible. So perhaps it's not worth mentioning at all? Lol

I have always felt (not meaning I think I'm right) that the entire biblical precept of "judgement" hinges upon the recognition that there is only one judge... namely God. 
No human can offer perfect judgement... ever.

Nowadays, "judgment" is dressed-up as "virtue signaling" - and thus used to 'social engineering' ends... perhaps the very apex corruption of the idea.

I think the lesson in the text you offer is about how we are responsible for our own judgements - at least as much as those we judge. 

But I am the least of Gods' children, so that's probably highly debatable.
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Yeah. Perfect judgment would require perfect information, and we are not given that. The opposite, in fact -- the whole "glass darkly" thing. The distortions of our media are like funhouse eyeglasses, they invite us to apply standards to others that, if we were on the other side of the distortion, we would find manifestly unfair. It invites life to "teach us lessons". And there are always those who are willing to take advantage of that, and provide such "service".
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I don't really see deep meaning in the message as presented.  Yes you will hold others accountable for their judgments and on their own metrics and the same will happen to you.  This is base, even animals responds in this way. 

If your asking about "karma", those lessons are not direct.  Say you have no empathy for animals, you will be given a pet that you learn to love.  Your not going to get three kicks to the shin becasue you kicked a dog once.
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(11-01-2024, 09:04 AM)Sirius Wrote: I don't really see deep meaning in the message as presented.  Yes you will hold others accountable for their judgments and on their own metrics and the same will happen to you.  This is base, even animals responds in this way. 

If your asking about "karma", those lessons are not direct.  Say you have no empathy for animals, you will be given a pet that you learn to love.  Your not going to get three kicks to the shin becasue you kicked a dog once.

I think that perhaps the text's interpretation hinges, like in so much of all reality, in what you seek.  Understanding is a terrible thing, like a great foundation stone, otherwise immovable.  To seek it, is to seek recognition of a singularity of meaning.  What we find is often changed by how we come to find it.

All humans are constricted by their perspective.  Judgement is a concept, to place in the universe a thing perceived.  The Bible from which the text is derived, always was construed as being about the totality of human existence.  Whether this was the explicit intent of the author, or authors, is a matter of conjecture at this point. 

I think the ultimate "lessons" about judgement was ultimately meant to invoke conscientious humility and diligent focus in regards to evaluating (judging) other people... but that is, only an interpretation.

Interpretations, however, do not exist in a vacuum; they swim in an ocean of other interpretations... with many of us often seeking to find harmony in their collective presence... to better refine the dance of human life.  To validate it's value.

Perhaps "Karma" is just an idea of what 'is.'  It's an ideation incorporating human life in that dance. 
How the idea of karma evolved in different societies serves to demonstrate another constant of human existence. 
Whether extended to the mechanistic, or refined to the subtle, it is synchronously 'a judgment'... an interpretation of the observable, expressed in language.

(Language is equally the solution of the challenge of human existence, and the cause of many of our disconnects, I think.  But it is the tool with which we must work...)
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(11-01-2024, 08:34 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Matthew 7:2
For by whatever verdict you pass judgment you shall be judged, and in whatever measure you measure it shall be meted out to you.

What do you think of this verse? Does is describe an actual "supernatural" force that is active in the world? Or is it just aspirational advice?

If this effect is divinely or metaphysically enforced, could it be weaponized? I am thinking about how there are so many targets of hate presented by the media, invitations to judge that are given us. What if, by judging based on incomplete evidence or emotion, we are actually giving some sort of spiritual power to those who would rule over us in this world, because our judgment must, by necessity, rebound? Perhaps hypocrisy is being "farmed". Unfairly judge others for their oppression, and end up being oppressed ourselves. Does God see that as being "only fair"?

There is also the view of jumping to judgment as growing a Hegelian dialectic on unprovable ground, introducing an irresolvable chain of possible contradiction that serves only to muddy the waters, and make effective public discourse impossible. So perhaps it's not worth mentioning at all? Lol

Hypocrisy is great Nielsen ratings. Clicks help with advertising revenue at a set rate per view. The polarization is a side-effect from the greed and false witness of political agenda.

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