(Yesterday, 08:38 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: More Russian chest thumping.

People don't get their electricity turned off here by mistake.   Things here are much more professional and careful.  And if it were to happen, a simple phone call would get the problem fixed FOR FREE by a professional.  People don't have to do something illegal, jury-rig electronics, and risk doing it wrong or risk injury.

People here also work on their own homes just fine.  My husband does all sorts of stuff around the home with building and electronics and wiring.  Sometimes he does it.  Sometimes we call someone.  

SO WHAT?

And as far as building your own home ... WHY?  Others know how to do it much better and they get paid for their knowledge.  There are some who do build their own homes .. they are on TV shows doing DYI homes.   That's their choice.  

Your nationalist chest thumping is ridiculous. 

MAKE RUSSIA SMALL AGAIN.

(Yesterday, 07:23 AM)RussianTroll Wrote: Hi DI!

I want to talk today about building and renovating your own homes.

In Russia, everything is simple. Bought a plot of land, ordered a house plan, or made it yourself, bought all the necessary building materials, and build (either yourself with friends and relatives, or hire Tajiks, everything within the budget).

The same goes for home renovation (any). Any Russian wife will simply drive her husband crazy if, instead of fixing any malfunction in their home himself, he suddenly calls some licensed specialist, which will damage the family budget. Russian men can do everything - from construction, finishing to performing any complex electrical or any other work. If a man does not know and cannot do something, then there will definitely be a neighbor, acquaintance, friend or relative who knows and can do it.

Those who know me from ATS remember that I am a journalist by profession. I am not an expert in building and renovating houses. One day I was away from my apartment in a multi-apartment building for about a day. When I returned to the apartment, I discovered that I had no electricity. I immediately called my electricity company and found out that I had been disconnected by mistake - my neighbor owed money for electricity, and the electrician on duty had mistakenly disconnected my circuit breaker in the common box on the landing. In 3 days, an electrician would come and reconnect me to the network.

Naturally, I could not wait 3 days (work, router, Internet, refrigerator, lighting, TV, etc.). I opened the box on the landing, common to 4 apartments, saw that the wire with neutral entering my circuit breaker was insulated with electrical tape and inserted into the terminal. I loosened the terminal, removed the electrical tape and reinserted the wire into the circuit breaker. The job took 10 minutes.

Now I want to tell the story of a good friend of mine who moved to the USA many years ago.

5 years ago Oleg moved from the glorious Ural city of Magnitogorsk to... San Francisco, the very one where "the city is full of risk and a thousand lights", although all the Russians who have lived there for a long time call it "the city of a thousand homeless people".

But that's beside the point...

Oleg is an IT specialist, he worked quite productively in our province, developed several games, he was noticed and he went to Moscow, where he worked for exactly 1 week, after which he was lured to the States. Without thinking, he sold the house in our village and went after the blue dream of any IT specialist - to Silicon Valley.

The story is traditional: he got a job, took out a mortgage on a house and prepared to work 24 hours a day, otherwise he could not pay off the mortgage before retirement.

But this is not relevant either...

The house was bought small, one might even say modest 2.5 thousand square American feet, which in our Russian meters translates as 235 sq. m. Finishing and even some furniture were available, for them it is normal when you can move in and there are even vases in the house.

However, in the first week Oleg made a big mistake, while trying to connect an electric lawn mower to the network, he overdid it with his IT efforts and broke the socket, which suddenly sparked, smoke came out and the garage was de-energized.

What does an American homeowner do in such a situation?

He calls an electrician, a licensed specialist arrives and fixes everything at the company's expense, since the electrical network is guaranteed for 1 year.

What does a normal Russian man do in such a situation?

He says (first of all to himself):

- No problem, can't I connect two wires?

After that, the Russian guy goes to an American store, buys a circuit breaker, a socket, and personal protective equipment for $11. He comes home and, in front of his stunned neighbors, climbs with his own hands into the place where there should be 110 weak American volts, and not our powerful 220.

Do you know what the American neighbors do at this time?

That's right! They knock on the police. They arrive immediately and after the owner of the house says:

- There's nothing to worry about, the socket shorted out and the circuit breaker went down... I've already fixed everything

The owner is fined $2,000 from the state, $350 from the municipality, and $250 from the district office.

Plus, there was an increase in insurance by $110 per month and a warning from the bank that the next time someone temporarily residing in the house makes unauthorized repairs to his property, he will fly out at the speed of a bullet towards the flophouse.

Unauthorized repair of an outlet cost Oleg almost $3,000.

So it turns out that an ordinary American can't do anything in his own home? Just call a licensed specialist and fork out your hard-earned dollars? And is it even possible to talk about independent construction?

Yes, you can!

It turns out that you can even build a house with your own hands!

Only you first have to go to the municipality and buy a license to perform specific construction work, pay money and... listen to the safety rules for this work, which an experienced specialist will conduct with you. In addition, you must buy protective equipment and provide a receipt for its purchase at the first request: a fire extinguisher, gloves, a suit, boots, a vest, insurance, gloves and even a first aid kit.

Why all this?

Why such a rip-off?

Why such complications?

Is it really impossible to do it like in Russia: your home - your rules and do what you want?

So in which country is there more freedom for ordinary free people who want to build their own home with their own hands and repair it themselves?

Lots of questions. Answer them to me, a Russian, please.

Thank you.

(Yesterday, 08:43 AM)RussianTroll Wrote: If you like that your husband can't do anything around the house, and your family budget goes into the red every month with any breakdown, then that's your personal choice.
Russians choose freedom in everything.

By the way, as far as I remember, you don't live in America.

(Yesterday, 10:27 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Wow ... so much 'dumb' in that one post.

I already said my husband does a lot around the house ... even with the electrical.   Just like most people do.   Some things done on our own, and some things with a professional who knows it better.

Also you know nothing about our family budget or what 'goes into the red' and doesn't.  Your assumption is retarded.

And your comment about not living in America is really dumb.  Everyone knows what city and state I live in.  You've been told many times and it was up on my avatar at ATS.

Your nationalist chest thumping is 

(Yesterday, 10:38 AM)schuyler Wrote: That's funny. I  am an "ordinary American." I built my own house. I maintain it. Seems to put the lie to your entire diatribe. But then, Russians are not too concerned with the truth.

(Yesterday, 11:52 AM)CCoburn Wrote: I do most everything around here: electrical, plumbing, carpentry, yada yada. With the exception of disassembling and cleaning the boiler (no shop vac), but I should've been doing that too. A couple years back a guy did it that was due to retire, and nearly a year later everything in the basement started turning dark gray/black and when I had it serviced again they charged me more than twice as much saying it was "plugged". Conclusion: the tech that was getting ready to retire didn't feel much like cleaning a boiler that day.

Some parts are harder to get for homeowners. I had a hell of a time locating a relay box for one boiler but finally found one; nowadays you can get just about anything online though.

You need to be careful with certain disclosures to some entities, like insurance companies, and if you live in an older house (like I do) and you involve the power company for whatever reason, they might possibly force you to bring everything up to code.

Twice now over the past few years they tried to stop us Americans from working on our own vehicles, but it didn't go through the last time either (luckily). Trying to force us to take our vehicles to the dealership and pay through the ass. I know if I do the work myself (at a fraction of the cost) that some care will be taken with some attention to detail because it's mine and I actually give a shit about it. I couldn't even pay a shop to put new tires and balance them properly if at all, plus I like to grease up the components when I got the wheels off – as if the shop would do that.