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From woke to awake - Sirius - 11-19-2024
How quickly the narrative changes.
RE: From woke to awake - UltraBudgie - 11-19-2024
I was surprised the other day when snootyblue A&L Daily showcased this article:
Quote:Democracy dies in darkness? Journalists’ aspiration to save democracy is counterproductive, argues Yascha Mounk... more
The comments section is amazing! It's full of things like this:
![[Image: Screenshot_2024-11-18_21-37-25.png]](https://denyignorance.com/uploader/images/Screenshot_2024-11-18_21-37-25.png)
It's like a dam has broken. People now feel more free to say things like "hey, that did sound like BS to me, but I didn't feel comfortable saying anything..."
RE: From woke to awake - Maxmars - 11-19-2024
It's funny, isn't it? The story may never change... but the narrative does.
The story is usually just people being people... the narrative makes it juicy... enticing, voyeurism-worthy.
Say the narrative loudly enough, for long enough, and maybe everyone gets invested... has a 'position' to take, a 'stand' to make.
Our problem is in the narrative... it was never in the story.
(How Disney is credited with this young lady's journey of awareness, other than incidentally, completely eludes me. That's a narrative too... Just sayin.)
RE: From woke to awake - Sirius - 11-19-2024
After the thread on the WEF I'm halfway to believing this is all part of a plan to influence cultures in such a way as to destroy nationalism. The number one threat to globalism is pride. Pride in who you are.
It's all the cabals that sponsor this nonsense isn't it? These organizations are incubators for ambitions that extend election cycles. Greed also gets its fair share.
RE: From woke to awake - UltraBudgie - 11-19-2024
(11-19-2024, 01:04 AM)Sirius Wrote: After the thread on the WEF I'm halfway to believing this is all part of a plan to influence cultures in such a way as to destroy nationalism. The number one threat to globalism is pride. Pride in who you are.
It's all the cabals that sponsor this nonsense isn't it? These organizations are incubators for ambitions that extend election cycles. Greed also gets its fair share.
I think this is totally correct. But it is also a dangerously externalized way of looking at things. Companies like Disney are seen as pushing agendas, but when you look behind the curtain there is very little of the cynical cabal-like deception, concocting mind games and cackling "haha we'll make them our puppets!" It's different people, with different worldviews, some ideological and principled, some not so much, all operating from their own points-of-view. Yes, there's some weird worldviews, that incubate and metastasize, in part because the align with the interests of the powerful. But also because they express and focus the public's attention -- people love to embrace and/or contrast. Hate the wrong-woke, yearn for the right-woke. Different visions of a better world.
That's where laying it at the feet of "cabals" is dangerous. It makes the public seem like totally malleable programmable robots. In fact, the agendas these "cabals" express are always in alignment with what is possible from the discord within the general public. They are servants, in a way, of our pride, greed, envy, wrath -- it gives them material to work with. The woke social agenda is fueled in part by fear, of the potentially-unfounded nature of our certainties, of our limited understanding of others, of our desire to see everyone we don't understand as "good-aliens" or "bad-aliens", and different ideas of how to move past that.
This tendency has been amplified, yes, not only to serve the control matrix, but because it is a central issue of human cultural and global evolution, as technology and a shrinking world change and accelerate the ways we communicate and interact. The secret of these "cabals" is that they're actually right out in the open, the curtains we think they hide behind, when we think of them as some kind of "external elite", are really ones that we've put up ourselves.
RE: From woke to awake - IdeomotorPrisoner - 11-19-2024
(11-19-2024, 12:07 AM)Sirius Wrote: How quickly the narrative changes.
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY9AFW2Iqrc]
I like how the progressive (including myself) managed to make the a somewhat natural thing fail. It seems we managed to make the grass roots grow to an authoritative canopy that blocked the sun.
It got superficial. The woke movement became largely driven by activists, HR departments, discrimination lawsuit fears, rainbow capitalism, and straight PC warriors turning it to a virtue signaling arms race. Which spread to the electorate that tried to keep up with their own progressive leadership mandates. DEI in government was elected and then quickly regretted. And rejected by consumers.
It was a temporary representation of what people wanted for a moment in 2020. People wanted and voted for an end to hate, and that resulted in enforced safe spaces and everyone trying one up each other in ushering in this grand new way....
... which became overbearing, pandering, preachy, transparent, fake until every commercial/show/movie had a United Pronouns of Bennaton thing going. Disney really bought into it (to atone for their past racism and sexism) and now their movies have to jump the woke shark to counter their history of white privilege. Which included turning almost every 80s girl's favorite red-headed aspiring hominid into a way to shake things up and break ground. They basically did a 70s exploitation thing for a progressive statement.
If they wanted to really shake things up they would've done the Hans Christian Anderson version where Ursula wins and Ariel kills herself. Like protagonists in all Danish (Germanic) children's stories.
They changed the movie I watched hundreds of times in the name of transparent pandering. And as they intended, it ruined it for me to some degree.
Which was brilliant on their part because I asked myself, "Well, why am I so turned off the recessive white people traits were given back their melanin? Is it really arbitrary how she looks? Would a Latina mermaid do the same thing? Yes."
I determined I had an inherent preference to see a red-headed white mermaid. And the discomfort of changing that was exploited. Touché, Disney. I see you do overt psyops now. It must cancel out Dumbo.
But I'm glad to hear a black girl say that I'm not a total racist with that.
I just don't see it as something to wake up too. People have always been pandering herd-minded followers with cultural preference, which can change often. And people are prone to taking everything too far.
ETA:
It's just a variation of changing normative values. And I'm worried not viewing it in context with its predecessors can also backfire and lead to an abrasive replacement form that removes the Bolsheviks woke influence from society as part recapturing greatness and stopping unconfortable change. Positive progress destroyed because the totally of it got too overbearing.
