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Domestic terrorists... a recent example - Maxmars - 11-06-2024
From FoxNews: Nashville power grid bomb plot suspect unmasked as baby-faced thug: mugshot
Interesting timing on this report... the very day the new administration is announced... the FBI is 'hard' at work... again...
Back on the 12th of August, a young man was apprehended by FBI efforts... the surrounding details are reported herein with the usual list of allegations...
Allegation 1: Plotting to blow up a power station with a homemade bomb-laden drone"
Allegation 2: is an alleged "accelerationist," a "White supremacist" term expressing their desire to hasten the collapse of society
Allegation 3: discussed committing a mass shooting at a YMCA
Allegation 4: derailing a train with anti-Semitic motives.
Allegation 5: claimed past affiliation with White supremacist groups
Allegation 6: blamed the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on "a Jewish person"
Allegation 7: got into a shootout with a Black man in Lousiville, Kentucky
Allegation 8: researched past attacks on the power grid and concluded that damaging eight or more power stations at once would cripple the country
Allegation 9: allegedly gave his gun to one of the informants, who he thought was going to be a lookout.
Once he was apprehended, they found an armed explosive device in the car he had been in.
Of course, I am critical of the practice of having FBI personnel becoming involved over time with suspects... because there is often an element of "encouragement" there, and often can weaken the case by risking "entrapment" claims.
For example...
![[Image: philippi_complaint_-_file_stamped_copy-4.jpg?ve=1&tl=1]](https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/11/720/405/philippi_complaint_-_file_stamped_copy-4.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
Why are UCE-1 and UCE-2 not named within this 'evidence' of criminal plot? They are not evidently sitting there telling the would-be criminal "Hey, you ought to rethink this... this would be a bad thing and people could get hurt." They are obviously not "discouraging" the criminal, and in fact are offering tacit support for a dangerous enterprise.
Could this be another FBI "PR promotional activity?" Listening to the FBI-authored press release you can hear them gushing over their 'stalwart' defense of the law, and people of the country... again. The same FBI that almost gleefully participated in a lawfare against a number of politically-targeted citizens... Is this the FBI leadership "making nice?" They sure pulled out all the stops with the inflammatory verbiage... anti-Semitism, "shootout with a black man," WMD's, White supremist, 'mass shooting.'
But they did allow him to build, and transport what they are calling a WMD.... They knew when he was acquiring the materials, they knew what he intended to do... and they waited... they waited until "showtime." Nes pa?
(The agents do the jobs they are told to do... this is not about the agents...)
RE: Domestic terrorists... a recent example - UltraBudgie - 11-06-2024
UCE stands for Undercover Employee. They were introduced to him via CHS-1 and CHS-2 (Confidential Human Source) whom the indictment describe as "reliable, paid confidential human source[s] who has previously provided accurate information to the FBI in multiple investigations". So it does seem like Philippi was the only actual conspirator here. The FBI is very adept at catching those who cannot see what glows in the dark, and to be fair those are often dangerously stupid people.
Here are the documents. I find that if I'm tempted to judge the case or the larger question of the FBI's motives and merits, it's best to do so based on official records: https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1376071/dl
RE: Domestic terrorists... a recent example - Maxmars - 11-06-2024
(11-06-2024, 01:07 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Edit: And it seems to me we just saw a large expression of "accelerationist" sentiment yesterday. Will we perhaps be hearing this term more often?
Oh yes we will!
The inherent difficulty of "marketing and public relations" in the authoritarian's bernaysian modus operandi. These terms can often be spotted and used to effect.
Sorry for responding to your redacted comment... I meant no disrespect.
"Control," the illusion that keeps on giving... and taking... and giving...
RE: Domestic terrorists... a recent example - UltraBudgie - 11-06-2024
(11-06-2024, 01:29 PM)Maxmars Wrote: I meant no disrespect.
No problem. I noticed that the term "accelerationist" has already been redefined in an online context to refer to white nationalism, per this article from 2022:
Quote:accelerationist
Accelerationist is a term "used to describe activities intended to intensify racial conflict and societal collapse with the hopes of building a white ethnostate in the chaotic aftermath," according to the ADL Glossary of Extremism.
https://www.cnet.com/news/misinformation/extremism-glossary-be-aware-of-these-11-terms-used-online/
The ADL gives more detail however, grudgingly admitting to use of the term by the left-wing as being "very different":
Quote:Accelerationism
White supremacist accelerationism is a school of thought within some segments of the white supremacist movement (primarily neo-Nazi and alt-right white supremacists) that argues that, because white supremacists seem unable to reform or reshape modern society to fit their desires, the only alternative is to use violence to destabilize and destroy society itself, with the hopes of building a white ethnostate in the chaotic aftermath. Non-accelerationist white supremacists are divided on using violence as a tactic, but accelerationists wholeheartedly support it. The perpetrators of a number of recent white supremacist-related mass killings or attempted mass killings around the world have had links to accelerationism. Some other right-wing extremists have occasionally used the term more generically, to describe destroying the status quo or established order. The term "accelerationist" can also be found in other contexts, such as left-wing social theory, where it has very different meanings.
https://extremismterms.adl.org/glossary/accelerationism
So best not to use the term at all any more, as it is now badspeak.
RE: Domestic terrorists... a recent example - KTemplar - 11-18-2024
A couple of weeks ago, I had an encounter with a man, have to be careful what I say, but it went like this.
I asked him a very benign ?, it was regarding a donation. His response to me was extreme quite frankly. He got visibly upset, stepped back, flailed his hands while saying, “No, they have no idea how ruthless I am, but they are going to find out”. I can’t say much more.
It struck me so weird I memorized his outfit, the day it happened.
Open border was a dumb idea, no vetting will be a problem!
RE: Domestic terrorists... a recent example - UltraBudgie - 11-18-2024
(11-18-2024, 10:24 AM)KTemplar Wrote: Open border was a dumb idea, no vetting will be a problem!
I think the conspiratorial suspicion would be that Philippi was indeed very well-vetted, as far back as Afghanistan even. The question is by whom and for what purpose. If you're implying he wasn't on anyone's radar, that's a little hard to believe.
RE: Domestic terrorists... a recent example - KTemplar - 11-18-2024
(11-18-2024, 10:42 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I think the conspiratorial suspicion would be that Philippi was indeed very well-vetted, as far back as Afghanistan even. The question is by whom and for what purpose. If you're implying he wasn't on anyone's radar, that's a little hard to believe.
I have no idea if this man is on anyone’s radar, but he creeped me out!
RE: Domestic terrorists... a recent example - IdeomotorPrisoner - 11-18-2024
He sounds like he was an enthusiast of The Turner Diaries
This one probably was a long set-up. They can actually implant agents in his life to give him ideas and it's not necessarily entrapment.
Agent can say, "Why are you attacking X, I was thinking about what would happen if Y was attacked? Naw, let's just do what you were gonna do."
Intelligence efforts can publish literature about about how to do ritualistic occult killings of some Jewish or urban scapegoat and call the accelerationism an aeon. You're just giving people a blue print for antigovernment militancy and a mindset to want to undermine society.
Check out this probable psyop. These wacky tribes are the definition of accelerationist nonsense and the encouragement of illegal activity (sinister deeds) against ideological scapegoats and boogeyman. If you adopt their way and act as suggested you can purge yourself of all authority. If that makes sense.
And sometimes the three letter agents themselves do the publishing. It's a somewhat popular occult group in The Five Eyes counties. Nexions abound in US, Canada, UK, and Austrailia. It's worldwide but centered in those linked countries. In the 80s the FBI used it to let a bunch of angry white boys create what are essentially terror cells to plot their aeonic overthrow of the mundane. But mostly they just jumped and killed ethnic and homeless people.
It's of the same interactive cloth. The government can do a lot to give people ideas and then arrest those dumb enough to follow.
Accelerationist movements are great honey pots of disaffected alienated angry people that act predictably and can be led while skirting what is legally admissible entrapment.
RE: Domestic terrorists... a recent example - Anna - 11-18-2024
(11-18-2024, 12:52 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: ...
This one probably was a long set-up. They can actually implant agents in his life to give him ideas and it's not necessarily entrapment...
Intelligence efforts can publish literature about about how to do ritualistic occult killings of some Jewish or urban scapegoat and call the accelerationism an aeon. You're just giving people a blue print for antigovernment militancy and a mindset to want to undermine society...
The government can do a lot to give people ideas and then arrest those dumb enough to follow....
So are you saying that the FBI deliberately planted subversive and dangerous ideas in this poor fool's head? That they first brainwashed him with some Nazi ideology and then suggested blowing up the critical infrastructure? To what purpose?
Such psyop would only make sense if the FBI agents worked for a hostile foreign country. But then they wouldn't have prevented the damage and arrested the guy.
RE: Domestic terrorists... a recent example - IdeomotorPrisoner - 11-18-2024
(11-18-2024, 04:46 PM)Anna Wrote: So are you saying that the FBI deliberately planted subversive and dangerous ideas in this poor fool's head? That they first brainwashed him with some Nazi ideology and then suggested blowing up the critical infrastructure? To what purpose?
Such psyop would only make sense if the FBI agents worked for a hostile foreign country. But then they wouldn't have prevented the damage and arrested the guy.
Maybe not in your country. Here Feds put informants to work. One of his friends could be corrupted. Somewhere in his network of masked explosive builders.
The FBI was built on pretending and forcing criminals to be defacto agents and build cases.
White supremacy is a big one they use across the board. I used the occult example because The FBI recently used that group to go after domestic terrorists trafficking something. Being general drains of society. And in their weird lore, it is said the founder of the ideolgy has MI6 or CIA origins.
At very least, they put extremist ideologies under their watch. It's never a violation of free speech to spread these half-witted hate forms for people to digest. But they can watch activity surrounding it and make an extensive list. In this recent FBI/Occult case the agent spread the ideology as a cover. So there's some leniency to post hate if you don't actually believe it.
They were watching this idiot the entire way, and I would never put it past them to lead him along. Maybe try to have him seek out others they want to look into?
