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Presentiment - Sirius - 11-03-2024
Shoooo, this is a hard one. I have some question on the paranormal and quantification thereof when it comes to presentiment.
Fundamental truths exists, one of them being light. You can see it, you can create it. It's a useful thing, this text is encoded in light and streamed to your screen. You can warm your food with it, this is all basic stuff.
We also understand that it's an emission, an effect...radiation. Just like sound is the pressure wave that hit's your ear from something going bang, not something going bang in your ear.
That is a yardstick, we can measure things with it such as:
These "orbs of lights", ghosts, shadow people etc. that keeps getting reported has in common that they are all effects. If the stories are true then also short lived most of the time if you are lucky. Some of these phenomena sounds allot like presentiment or the physiological effect of it...and it's just a theory, don't woo me.
Another truth I know is that body and the mind can be tricked. You can control breathing to alter your mental state. Your mental state can arouse your body as examples.
These graphs in the video, this "electrodermal activity" people experience before looking at a picture. Wouldn't your body and mind get tricked if the picture isn't shown for some reason? I think there is a high change a hallucination could be created by the body that would look like a "orbs of lights", ghosts, shadow people becasue that was what it was expecting.
This also then sounds like it's not related to mental health and not exorcists needed if someone is struggling, it's a physical problem...some gland is overproducing hormones? not a doctor.
Before I'm accused of killing all the fairies. I feel we should have a way to classify "orbs of lights", ghosts, shadow people etc. as presentiment and not just quickly confine it and I would be interested in methods.
Both things can be true.
RE: Presentiment - CCoburn - 11-03-2024
(11-03-2024, 03:31 AM)Sirius Wrote: Fundamental truths exist, one of them being light. You can see it, you can create it. It's a useful thing, this text is encoded in light and streamed to your screen. You can warm your food with it, this is all basic stuff.
Reason is not a bridge to all truth
Reason rises to greet its boundaries of absurdities, these relinquished requiems of repose, whilst truth runs deep and silent through the rivers of eternity.
RE: Presentiment - UltraBudgie - 11-03-2024
The emissive particle model of light makes no sense. For example, a "photon" will take the route through a series of mirrors and lenses such that it travels from the source to the eye in the least possible amount of time, even if that path isn't the shortest or direct one. It will immediately "set out" on the right path to achieve this, before "encountering" anything that might "deflect" it:
![[Image: Screenshot_2024-11-03_06-55-42.png]](https://denyignorance.com/uploader/images/Screenshot_2024-11-03_06-55-42.png)
(This is called Fermat's principle)
How does it "know"? If you ask a physicist, they will say something like "Oh yeah, photons don't really exist". Thanks guys.
If I can restate your hypothesis a little, it would be that there are entoptic predictor structures in the brain, perhaps of some quantum effect, that anticipate stimulation before measurable cause, and that those predictors may on rare occasion be "fooled" or otherwise made inaccurate, causing inexplicable visual phenomena of things that don't measurably exist external to perception. Like some impressions of UFOs, orbs, sprites, fey, phosphene-laser satellites, etc. Perhaps the discrepancy is caused by some type of cloaking, editing of possible timelines, or other unknown active meddling technology.
I guess the key to testing this would be to, say, shine a blinking flashlight on your eyes in the mirror, and interfere with the blinking mechanism in various ways. Make it random, with different timings. Have it human-mediated. Link it to a photoreceptor aimed at Sirius. See if you can generate those "phantom presentments".
RE: Presentiment - Sirius - 11-04-2024
(11-03-2024, 10:12 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I guess the key to testing this would be to, say, shine a blinking flashlight on your eyes in the mirror, and interfere with the blinking mechanism in various ways. Make it random, with different timings. Have it human-mediated. Link it to a photoreceptor aimed at Sirius. See if you can generate those "phantom presentments".
Not where I was going, "altering" the future is just making something happen and it makes my head hurt thinking about it too much.
There are premonitions of things that is not local, like a tsunami but on the other side of the world.
I'm going to follow CCoburn's advice and sleep on the topic a while.
