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FBI stealth edit crime data increasing 6.6% - pianopraze - 10-16-2024
The FBI has stealth edited its 2022 crime data increasing it 6.6 percent. Far from the decrease in crime of 2 percent the White House and mainstream media have been trumpeting, crime increased well over 4 percent.
This still does not reflect over 6,000 departments that have failed to report including some of the largest including some LAPD and NYPD departments in which a lot of crime occurs. If those reported it would drive the FBI crime rate still higher.
Fact checkers have repeatedly used this FBI statistic to "fact check" Trump and say he’s lying.
So why release the stealth update now? My guess is to soften the blow of the 2023 statistics which are going to be even higher. [edit - removed speculation which might cause confusion]
Regardless of the reason it shows, again, we can not trust government statistics White House and media tout. The jobs report was revised downward by almost 1 million - over 800k.
Such deceit, if not out right blatant lying needs to be punished.
Reports are on real clear investigation and Tim Pools reporting below.
Real clear investigations
Quote:When the FBI originally released the “final” crime data for 2022 in September 2023, it reported that the nation’s violent crime rate fell by 2.1%. This quickly became, and remains, a Democratic Party talking point to counter Donald Trump’s claims of soaring crime.
But the FBI has quietly revised those numbers, releasing new data that shows violent crime increased in 2022 by 4.5%. The new data includes thousands more murders, rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults.
USA Today
Quote:The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics on Wednesday revised down its estimate of total employment in March 2024 by 818,000, the largest such downgrade in 15 years. That effectively means there were 818,000 fewer job gains than first believed from April 2023 through March 2024.
Marshal project
Quote:2020, almost every law enforcement agency was included in the FBI’s database. Some agencies reported topline numbers, such as the total number of murders or car thefts, through the Summary Reporting System. Others reported granular incident data with details about each reported crime through the newer National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS).
Then it all changed in 2021. In an effort to fully modernize the system, the FBI stopped taking data from the old summary system and only accepted data through the new system. Thousands of police agencies fell through the cracks because they didn’t catch up with the changes on time.
More than 6,000 law enforcement agencies were missing …
representing nearly one-third of the nation’s 18,000 police agencies. This means a quarter of the U.S. population wasn't represented in the federal crime data
RE: FBI stealth edit crime data increasing 6.6% - xuenchen - 10-16-2024
Smart People wondering why these fumblefuck Executive Branch outfits are being allowed to edit their own BS??
Bet the real "adjusted" stats are way way higher by at least 2x what they now say.
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RE: FBI stealth edit crime data increasing 6.6% - Maxmars - 10-16-2024
What?!!
Government political appointees "fudging" reports to provide political support to the administration that appointed them?
Isn't that fraud? Isn't that a crime? I guess the Bureau of Labor was setting the stage for our future reliance on government statistics.
Apparently these people have only pride in their "party" not the country of "exploitees."
If any citizen does this "to" the FBI he or she is charged with something like perjury... but if it's done "by" the FBI now... they're just "glorious stalwart heroes of law enforcement" who should be given credit for saving the rest of us from what is reflected in their now frequently "imaginary" reporting data...
Ouch!... I pulled an outrage muscle... I think you might understand without me having to strain myself further.
RE: FBI stealth edit crime data increasing 6.6% - UltraBudgie - 10-16-2024
Is there a placebo effect here? Like, if people thought that crime was spiralling out of control, then belief in the efficiency of public order would decline, trust in authority would erode, and crime would get worse, merely by virtue of mass psychology.
The same is true with job reports. Businesses would believe consumers were continuing to "tighten their belts", would decrease projections, and in turn, would cut back on expansion and new hiring. Hopes of a "soft recovery" would be lost.
On the other hand, is lying to the public ever justified? Perhaps that's why they hide it behind statistics and layers of bureaucratic confusion. It certainly isn't like the major media is highlighting this; they're playing along. Only Tim "Civil War" Pool seems worked up about it, and no one listens to him, because he wears a beanie.
RE: FBI stealth edit crime data increasing 6.6% - guyfriday - 10-16-2024
Well Seattle WA might give a hint at some of the real numbers, especially given the difference in numbers.
Seattle 2022 crime report: Violent crime, homicides increased | king5.com
Quote:Violent crime increased by 4% across Seattle and homicides increased by 24%, according to 2022 data from the Seattle Police Department.
During the same time National numbers were being reported at being lowered. Thankfully, the real numbers are coming out for these stats.
RE: FBI stealth edit crime data increasing 6.6% - Creaky - 10-16-2024
But we can’t talk politics
RE: FBI stealth edit crime data increasing 6.6% - Maxmars - 10-16-2024
We ARE talking politics. We are just not talking "political theater."
This is the difference. We are observing the "behavior" that shows not patriotism, but partisanship. An audit trail of personalities doesn't serve any end beyond showing that ANY partisanship diminishes the value of public service... changing its nature, rendering it to serve something, anything, NOT in accordance with the original intent of their service.
I know and can well understand needing a precise target when attacking problems like this. But there is no precise target... it keeps resolving down to base values like "honor," and "service." Something which NO successful political candidate somehow can ever live up to... apparently. The people of our government appear to be one of interspersed 'cliques' and 'friendships.' The money opportunities make it a moat of power peppered with lies and deceit. It's the occupants of "offices"... the most significant of them are political appointees, our first clue as to how this is happening... they why of it be damned.
RE: FBI stealth edit crime data increasing 6.6% - k0rn - 10-17-2024
That’s a pretty big difference between the original and the new number.
