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Vatican Issues Warning Against Voting for Trump - FlyersFan - 10-07-2024
L'Obsserbatore Romano is the official Vatican newspaper. Nothing gets printed in it unless the Vatican approves and agrees. This article was not printed in the opinion section, but rather in the news section.
The official Vatican position of the US elections now seems to be that they see Trump as 'authoritative and polarizing' ... and they give abortion czar Harris a free pass on her polarizing and her abortion and trans stands. They also falsely claim that she and Biden make attempts to depolarize this country. The exact opposite is true.
While neither candidate, Trump or Harris, is the poster child for good behavior ... Trump is anti-globalist whereas Harris is for no borders ... and 'Pope Francis' is anti-America and anti-border, so we can see where the bias comes from.
Jesus was not political at all. The Vatican is a pro-globalist, money making operation and is notoriously anti-American. The Vatican is also a foreign country, so this could be considered election interference from a foreign country, trying to tell 52 million adult voting age Catholics in America how to vote. 'You aren't a good Catholic unless you vote how the Vatican says' .. that can be very effective on a lot of Catholic people.
Vatican Newspaper Issues Unusual Warning About American Presidential Election
Quote:A victory by Donald Trump will lead to an “authoritarian remake” (rifacimento autoritario) of the United States, according to an expert analysis of the US presidential election published by the Vatican newspaper.
With Trump, this forced polarization would continue, transforming it into the domination of one America over the other. With Harris, there would be attempts to reduce it, as Biden did. The latter’s failure, however, explains the fact that there is not much room to recover a form of unity both at the political level and in the social and cultural self-perception of the country ...
It is a unique election because it is quite clear that, if Trump wins, his political project would be an authoritarian remake of the State and the expulsion of the other part of the United States from the federal and state governments, as already done with the Supreme Court. It would be an unprecedented twisting of democracy.
RE: Vatican Issues Warning Against Voting for Trump - UltraBudgie - 10-07-2024
well this pope seems like a good egg and all and wow its amazing how he can pull off those hats but lets just take a second to chew on this
The Pope. Pointing out someone as "polarizing and authoritative". The Pope.
okay well i bet someones just sittin up there on a cloud going blink blink blink
RE: Vatican Issues Warning Against Voting for Trump - FlyersFan - 10-07-2024
(10-07-2024, 11:20 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: well this pope seems like a good egg and all ...
yeah well my opinion of him is a whole lot lower than that.
He's an enemy to the Catholic church and the America.
RE: Vatican Issues Warning Against Voting for Trump - UltraBudgie - 10-07-2024
thanks okay i clicked through and the italian article was paywalled unfortunately but from the first i think they were quoting some guy pecorino romano or something a history teacher in florence? so not pope though im sure he has his opinions too haha
RE: Vatican Issues Warning Against Voting for Trump - Anna - 10-07-2024
Well... from what I read, it's a SEMI official Vatican newspaper. I'm not really sure how much it reflects the Pope's views because I've never read it. However, Pope Francis has said so many stupid things that it's entirely possible that he doesn't see any problem in meddling with the internal affairs of a foreign country. His stance on immigration is well-known. He encourages greeting immigrants with open arms.
And what's wrong with polarization? It's natural in every democracy. He seems to be more friendly to dictators. His support for Putin and Russia raised controversies too. Apparently, for pope Francis a day without pissing someone off is a day lost.
RE: Vatican Issues Warning Against Voting for Trump - FlyersFan - 10-07-2024
(10-07-2024, 12:39 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: thanks okay i clicked through and the italian article was paywalled unfortunately but from the first i think they were quoting some guy pecorino romano or something a history teacher in florence? so not pope though im sure he has his opinions too haha
Yeah, they aren't quoting the pope, but nothing gets printed in that newspaper without the Vatican approving and agreeing. It is their mouthpiece.
RE: Vatican Issues Warning Against Voting for Trump - ArMaP - 10-07-2024
(10-07-2024, 11:03 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: L'Obsserbatore Romano is the official Vatican newspaper. Nothing gets printed in it unless the Vatican approves and agrees. This article was not printed in the opinion section, but rather in the news section.
It was not printed in the opinion section but it's about the opinion of Federico Romero, supposedly an expert in something.
As far as I could see, Federico Romero is not part of the Catholic Church.
RE: Vatican Issues Warning Against Voting for Trump - Maxmars - 10-07-2024
I doubt the Pope of the Roman Catholic institution would basely inflict this kind of interference in "Caesar's" world, but he has diverted from that path before.
I am very concerned about many aspects of this.
It appears that the journalism of this periodical is "yellowing" further.
"Activist journalism" indeed.
RE: Vatican Issues Warning Against Voting for Trump - FlyersFan - 10-07-2024
(10-07-2024, 02:27 PM)ArMaP Wrote: It was not printed in the opinion section but it's about the opinion of Federico Romero, supposedly an expert in something.
As far as I could see, Federico Romero is not part of the Catholic Church.
Anything that gets printed in this is approved of by the Vatican and they agree with.
It wouldn't be in print in it otherwise. Catholics know this.
RE: Vatican Issues Warning Against Voting for Trump - UltraBudgie - 10-07-2024
"Two opposing views in the challenge between Harris and Trump" -> "Trump victory will lead to ‘authoritarian remake’ of United States, Vatican newspaper’s ‘expert analysis’ warns" -> "Vatican Issues Warning Against Voting for Trump"
https://www.osservatoreromano.va/it/news/2024-10/quo-225/due-visioni-opposte-nella-sfida-tra-harris-e-trump.html
