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Protocols of Zion - guyfriday - 09-14-2024
Well, this is a weird one. Let's first address the issue of when this group was founded. While I know that Wikipedia isn't the best source for much, it is a great referance for a starting point in a search.
Pierre Plantard - Wikipedia
Quote: On 25 June 1956, Pierre Plantard and André Bonhomme legally registered in the town of Saint-Julien-en-Genevois a new association called the Priory of Sion, based in Annemasse close to the French border near Geneva. The group was devoted to the support of building low-cost housing in Annemasse, and criticising local government through its journal Circuit.[sup][4][/sup][sup][5][/sup][sup][6][/sup] The "Sion" in the name did not refer to the ancient Land of Israel, but to a local mountain, Mont-Sion (or Mont-de-Sion), where the order (according to its statutes) intended to establish a retreat center.[sup][4][/sup][sup][5][/sup] The association dissolved by December 1956.
And while that may or may not be true, it does seem to be the popular belief of the majority that like to dispute the Priory of Sion, and strangely is also the evidence that is used to dispute the existence of another group named Protocols Of Zion.
So, before I get too far into this mess, I want to know what does the populace here at Deny Ignorance believe or think?
Also I found this oddity from Archive.Org:
Protocols Of Zion 1937 US edition : Nilus; Victor Marsden; others : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
This was published in 1937 in Bremerton Washington.
RE: Protocols of Zion - Maxmars - 09-14-2024
It just goes to show that in the past there were those who hinged their own identities on the hatred of one group or other. It happens in most any society I can think of.
It bears an ugly message... but then hatred is if nothing else, always ugly.
We can call it by all manner of euphemisms... but it is an expression of simple hatred. Like most manifestos I have run across (not all.)
RE: Protocols of Zion - guyfriday - 09-14-2024
(09-14-2024, 11:27 PM)Maxmars Wrote: It just goes to show that in the past there were those who hinged their own identities on the hatred of one group or other. It happens in most any society I can think of.
It bears an ugly message... but then hatred is if nothing else, always ugly.
We can call it by all manner of euphemisms... but it is an expression of simple hatred. Like most manifestos I have run across (not all.)
After reading though a second book that was listed, I noticed a trend on the use of the word "Jewish". I don't think they are referring to the Religion, but instead it seems like they are referring to a group. An example of this is George Soros, when attacked by facts he claims to be of Jewish heritage and dismisses the attack as "just antisemitism". Otherwise, he will openly dismiss Judaism and claim he's agnostic or a few times he has stated that he was an atheist.
I think this is the same context of many of the "Jewish" finger pointing taking place in these books. I also noticed that Rothchilds name would come up right before an anti-Jewish rant started. Weirdly I think that some of these writing may not be actual antisemitism, but sadly just a lack of knowing what else to label a group of people that happen to have people of Jewish Heritage in it.
I agree that it makes it hard to read and figure out what they are saying or if what they are writing "IS" what they are saying. In the other book written in the 1930s as well, it makes a reference to Lazard People. Do they mean Lizard People, that would be neat to have that reference dated back then, or do they mean those that follow the theories of Laissez-faire. I'll link that book if it has anything related to this one, but after reading "Protocals of Zion" I need a day or so.
I'm thinking of doing a massive "copy and paste" of the Zion book, and see if it makes better sense if words are replaced by modern terms that might better sense (and yes I was thinking "how would the book read if Jewish was replaced by Deep State").
RE: Protocols of Zion - UltraBudgie - 09-15-2024
Oh that stuff is shadow leakage man not pleasant stuff. Yeah probably some history there and people and movements and that but when you hear people rant about that - and they do rant almost always why is that haha - just think of it like they're projecting because its almost always that too. Spiritual libel trap duh they say grr nasty conspiracy of evil people and well guess what, i'll bet dinars to donuts thats exactly how they'd themselves act if they had the power and their egos are bruised cause they dont. America breeds that attitude really. Envy projection of powerlessness. Can't imagine that there may actually be people who are more virtuous. Cant admit their defilements are their fault oh no it must be the corruption of some evil influence. Anyway the jewhate stuff is pretty deep in european and american psych for example check out the little essay the founder of protestantism namesake of mlk himself martain luther: archive org
So not a wargames thing the only winning move is not playing heh even more cause the whole subject is tangled with need to hate as was said above so its as much about peoples unrealized thwarted will to power, not that nitzhe was right but hey he was on to something there. wilhelm reich too. So at best not playing ziopolitics is neutral, not a win. and yep i bet theres powerful people who understand that and are like 'hey you want to destroy yourself with hate go ahead no one is forcing you to take the poison'. but its unamerican to admit spiritual stupidity lol.
(09-14-2024, 11:45 PM)guyfriday Wrote: a reference to Lazard People
That may be bob lazard the ufo guy
RE: Protocols of Zion - guyfriday - 09-15-2024
(09-15-2024, 12:33 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Oh that stuff is shadow leakage man not pleasant stuff. Yeah probably some history there and people and movements and that but when you hear people rant about that - and they do rant almost always why is that haha - just think of it like they're projecting because its almost always that too. Spiritual libel trap duh they say grr nasty conspiracy of evil people and well guess what, i'll bet dinars to donuts thats exactly how they'd themselves act if they had the power and their egos are bruised cause they dont. America breeds that attitude really. Envy projection of powerlessness. Can't imagine that there may actually be people who are more virtuous. Cant admit their defilements are their fault oh no it must be the corruption of some evil influence. Anyway the jewhate stuff is pretty deep in european and american psych for example check out the little essay the founder of protestantism namesake of mlk himself martain luther: archive org
So not a wargames thing the only winning move is not playing heh even more cause the whole subject is tangled with need to hate as was said above so its as much about peoples unrealized thwarted will to power, not that nitzhe was right but hey he was on to something there. wilhelm reich too. So at best not playing ziopolitics is neutral, not a win. and yep i bet theres powerful people who understand that and are like 'hey you want to destroy yourself with hate go ahead no one is forcing you to take the poison'. but its unamerican to admit spiritual stupidity lol.
That may be bob lazard the ufo guy
Alot of the anti-Jewish doctrine comes from the Catholic Church back in the 14th century when they had nothing that worked with the Plague. Sadly, it never went away.
This Lazard thing was from a 1930s book, so it predates Bob Lazar. Unless Otis T Carr really did build a time machine and not an instant transport vehicle, I think we can rule out Bob Lazar.
RE: Protocols of Zion - UltraBudgie - 09-15-2024
(09-14-2024, 11:45 PM)guyfriday Wrote: see if it makes better sense if words are replaced by modern terms
Bill Cooper said to use "Illuminati":
Quote:Author’s Note: This is an exact reprint of the original text. This has been written intentionally to deceive people. For clear understanding, the word "Zion" should be "Sion"; any reference to "Jews" should be replaced with the word "Illuminati"; and the word "goyim" should be replaced with the word "cattle."chapter 15
Ok i was just kidding about bob lizard, hah sorry
