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Materials "from Roswell" crash - likely not alien - Maxmars - 07-12-2024

In 2022, after languishing for many (many) years, materials recovered from the Roswell crash were sent by the DoD's All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to the Oak Ridge National Laboratory for extensive analysis....

Guess what?  "Probably" not alien.

From Gizmodo: Pentagon Publishes Report on Material From an Alleged Alien Aircraft

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“This specimen has been publicly alleged to be a component recovered from a crashed extraterrestrial vehicle in 1947, and purportedly exhibits extraordinary properties, such as functioning as a terahertz waveguide to generate antigravity capabilities,” the AARO said in the press release. “Considering all available evidence, AARO assesses that this specimen is likely a test object, a manufacturing product or byproduct, or a material component of aerospace performance studies to evaluate the properties of [magnesium] alloys.”

According to the report, the speculated piece of a UFO aircraft is just a normal magnesium compound.

“Although the origin, chain of custody, and ultimate purpose of this specimen remain unclear, a modern and robust analysis of its chemical and structural composition and properties does not indicate that its origin is non-terrestrial, nor do the data indicate that the material examined ever had the pure single-crystalline bismuth layer that could possibly have acted as a terahertz waveguide,” Oak Ridge said in its report....



If we are to assume no intervening motivations to "change" the results for this evidence... consider this question;  How do we evaluate "evidence" when the chain of custody is entirely mired in classified obfuscation?

How is it that the manufacturing process for this presumably earth-bound aeronautics research not identifiable... how many candidates operations for such research were there in the US just after WWII?

And are we wrong to assume this is actually about the Roswell incident... when the DoD report makes no mention of it in their report?

Just adding this to the pile of "Of course it's not alien" documentation someone seems so vested in getting "on record."


RE: Materials "from Roswell" crash - likely not alien - pianopraze - 07-12-2024

Guess who just went from AARO to the lab where they sent this sample?

I’ll give you a hint. 

He was just proven a big fat liar by Fugal. Link


Stinks to high heaven, all of this.


RE: Materials "from Roswell" crash - likely not alien - Maxmars - 07-12-2024

(07-12-2024, 04:18 PM)pianopraze Wrote: Guess who just went from AARO to the lab where they sent this sample?

Oh my! "Government to Industry Revolving door" much?

From your link.
 

The DoD analysis on an alleged extraterrestrial alloy was done by Oak Ridge National Labs. Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, head of AARO, most likely was in charge of contracting that, at the time. He has since retired from AARO, and was hired by Oak Ridge National Labs.


You'd think that they would have orchestrated that "hiring decision" a bit more discretely...


RE: Materials "from Roswell" crash - likely not alien - theshadowknows - 07-12-2024

I have a friend that's a physicist at Oak Ridge and formerly Los Alamos, although I think he still works for Los Alamos. I'm not sure. For obvious reasons, I can't really talk to him about his work, but I am curious if he's ever heard this tale.


RE: Materials "from Roswell" crash - likely not alien - ArMaP - 07-12-2024

I was curious about what was the "specimen" analysed, but I saw it on the report.

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I was expecting something a little bigger.


RE: Materials "from Roswell" crash - likely not alien - Nerb - 07-12-2024

(07-12-2024, 06:41 PM)ArMaP Wrote: I was curious about what was the "specimen" analysed, but I saw it on the report.

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I was expecting something a little bigger.

Looks like a small piece of a corrugated roofing sheet made from fibre cement. Or asbestos.


RE: Materials "from Roswell" crash - likely not alien - Maxmars - 07-12-2024

Would love to see the theory about how the fragment came to be separated from whatever it was part of.  Explosion? Impact? It certainly seems clean.  It doesn't appear to be burned.  I suppose the high-tech analysis folks subjected it to all manner of tests... after all it took two years.

I didn't see the report itself, so I can say for certain.


RE: Materials "from Roswell" crash - likely not alien - pianopraze - 07-12-2024

(07-12-2024, 04:25 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Oh my! "Government to Industry Revolving door" much?

From your link.
 

The DoD analysis on an alleged extraterrestrial alloy was done by Oak Ridge National Labs. Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, head of AARO, most likely was in charge of contracting that, at the time. He has since retired from AARO, and was hired by Oak Ridge National Labs.


You'd think that they would have orchestrated that "hiring decision" a bit more discretely...

Exactly.

i have no opinion about the sample whatsoever. 

Kirkpatrick in my opinion is a proven liar and has agenda to slow/stop any real disclosure.


RE: Materials "from Roswell" crash - likely not alien - broccoli - 07-12-2024

If you guys are ever in Roswell, and you're into rocks, there's a cool rock collection store at the corner of all the alien tourism stuff.
Think I saw some Trinitite there as well.


RE: Materials "from Roswell" crash - likely not alien - ArMaP - 07-13-2024

(07-12-2024, 07:40 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Would love to see the theory about how the fragment came to be separated from whatever it was part of.  Explosion? Impact? It certainly seems clean.  It doesn't appear to be burned.

They report's conclusion says:
Quote:Conclusion
AARO secured ORNL to independently assess the requirements necessary to confirm or contest public claims
that this historical specimen is of non-terrestrial origin and that it is capable of functioning as a bismuth-based
terahertz waveguide. Although the origin, chain of custody, and ultimate purpose of this specimen remain unclear,
a modern and robust analysis of its chemical and structural composition and properties does not indicate that its
origin is non-terrestrial, nor do the data indicate that the material examined ever had the pure single-crystalline
bismuth layer that could possibly have acted as a terahertz waveguide. The intended or actual past use of the
material remains undetermined, but ORNL has a high level of confidence that all data indicate the material was
manufactured terrestrially—albeit using an uncommon mixture of elements by today’s standards—and then incurred
damage caused by mechanical and heat stressors.

I find it interesting that they point to "unclear" origin and chain of custody, as in fact they could have been given some piece of metal that has no connection to any UFO case.
Quote:I suppose the high-tech analysis folks subjected it to all manner of tests... after all it took two years.

It probably wasn't a high priority job.
Quote:I didn't see the report itself, so I can say for certain.

It's here, if you're interested.