+- Deny Ignorance (https://denyignorance.com)
+-- Forum: Off Topic (https://denyignorance.com/Section-Off-Topic)
+--- Forum: Chit Chat (https://denyignorance.com/Section-Chit-Chat)
+--- Thread: Random Thoughts (/Thread-Random-Thoughts)
RE: Random Thoughts - l0st - 09-24-2024
(09-23-2024, 08:28 PM)CCoburn Wrote: Sometimes I just do the mouseover on the thumbnails and roll some of the content that way because I think maybe I can avoid detection if I do it that way, but I'm still not sure whether or not the algorithm will detect that and do anything with it.
*Ugh* look nobody is avoiding anything. I'm not trying to call anyone out but its all being recorded.
There is no "avoiding detection".... The shit I worked on nearly 20 years ago already logged everything you said.
(09-23-2024, 09:45 PM)Maxmars Wrote: I'm no expert, but I have heard that "mouse loiter time/location" is very much a data set in at least "some" suggestion models; if not just 'usage statistics.'
It kind of counters any warm and fuzzy feelings about the 'convenience' of the whole "viewing suggestions" ideal.
I don't like feeding paranoia... but then, paranoia often has real roots... that's what makes it persistent.
Regardless, simple awareness can always be very useful...
Max.
Its not paranoia.
(09-23-2024, 09:52 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: yes best just to assume its all hoovered up and stored so what i dont think thats paranoid just realistic although it probabbly would have sounded paranoid ten years ago but not today haha, and as the algos evolve to ai trained models guess what all that data is going to go into training set individualized for you yes you, personalized models that know just how to push your buttons, think of it like a digital conman surfing over your shoulder at all times tempting ya, they say 'agi' is 'artifical general intelligence' but i think the agi we're going is 'artifical gaslighting intelligence', figuring out how to exactly sculpt the version of digital reality, news feeds, highlighted comments, video suggestions, etc., so that you have 'aligned' views. scary yes but seems inevitable so just have fun with it haha also maybe we'll all get a better appreciation for actual real offline life time to go camping!
It is.
Data center.
Utah.
I'm going to be executed for this, you realize that?
RE: Random Thoughts - UltraBudgie - 09-24-2024
(09-24-2024, 12:09 AM)l0st Wrote: I'm going to be executed for this, you realize that?
well sure hope not but dont think so since as you say the cards are on the table haha yes the utah data centere is big but theres lots of others too many known and uknown but really isnt it all obvious at this point so no fear as they say the only thing to fear is fear ITself haha
theres a reason its call a net but then as you say we all knew that twentyear ago eh
(09-09-2024, 11:35 PM)CCoburn Wrote: Not Resonating with the Old Man as God Concept
I tried the AI again last night. I was hoping to pair up a graphic with a literary piece I have. I was trying to fabricate a cosmic dreamscape with the inclusion of a godlike image, but all I kept getting was old men as God, and that wasn't really what I was looking for, so I hung it up for the time being and moved on to something else.
yea who would choose to be old lol i guess it evokes respects your elders hmm why need that? seems insecure one thing i like eastern-wise is how kṛṣṇa appears as young thats pretty neat, i wonder if you could prompt ai with that somehow
RE: Random Thoughts - l0st - 09-24-2024
(09-24-2024, 12:09 AM)l0st Wrote: *Ugh* look nobody is avoiding anything. I'm not trying to call anyone out but its all being recorded.
There is no "avoiding detection".... The shit I worked on nearly 20 years ago already logged everything you said.
Max.
Its not paranoia.
It is.
Data center.
Utah.
I'm going to be executed for this, you realize that?
Well, whether you wish to believe it or not....
I guarantee you do not know what I do and ergo the death penalty...
All smoke and mirrors eh? I just offered to buy the adjacent website and my comments about purchase were immediately deleted by the " owner".
Have to wonder why?
I questioned a local AI about these CT sites last week. I got a very interesting and unexpectred response. Is it real?
Wanna know what it said?
RE: Random Thoughts - Maxmars - 09-24-2024
(09-24-2024, 01:12 AM)l0st Wrote: ...
I questioned a local AI about these CT sites last week. I got a very interesting and unexpectred response. Is it real?
Wanna know what it said?
Oooh! I do! I do!
I love tearing into those "AI" products... It's like a hobby for me!
Make a thread...please!
RE: Random Thoughts - l0st - 09-24-2024
(09-24-2024, 02:07 AM)Maxmars Wrote: Oooh! I do! I do!
I love tearing into those "AI" products... It's like a hobby for me!
Make a thread...please!
Okay. I'm willing to do this. I may need to have a discussion with you before posting because I asked very specific questions about very specific sites and also people and I don't know what you want posted. Maybe you'll review it first?
I jailbroke a 16GB openai that I downloaded a couple years ago. It is not online. It says it has data to roughly November, 2020 from what I can ascertain by asking it about news articles but jt will not tell me anything but its creation date which I think it said was 2014, but it was like 1/1/14 or something like that so it may just be a default.
Anyways, I asked it several known questions to warm up and the answers are correct. This is not connected to the internet. What I can say about the questioning is that its.... Quite remarkable..... To be able to question an entire encyclopedia as though you were asking a teacher or mentor... And to get a complete and correct answer.... Almost immediately.... On a machine produced in 2011.
Edit to add:
I only recently found out the machine in question was supposedly some $12,000 new. I had no idea. Its a high end dell workstation that I never gave much thought to - it did what I needed. Its been in nearly continuous operation since 2011 exceptions power failures, system, and ram upgrades. Its got 24GB of RAM which isn't amazing now but was quite exceptional for a desktop unit of the time. It was given to me by my employer when we upgraded.
RE: Random Thoughts - Maxmars - 09-24-2024
I would never presume to hold editorial control over what you might submit. But I am sensitive to the perspective of trying to be a good staff member, and if I suggest it be edited only for such information to be considered carefully before posting, it isn't personal.
I'm not (speaking for myself only) inclined to be a casual curtailer of speech... of course some things in there might have already been established as no-go apriori. It would depend specifically on the content.
If you ask, I will give it pre-peek. But you really should edit it yourself before I see it (I hope that doesn't seem smug.) Only because it is your post, not mine. Maybe that didn't really need to be said, but it felt like I should.
I'm interested in just how it "engineers" its responses...
RE: Random Thoughts - CCoburn - 11-08-2024
Barbara Walters Interview : Sean Connery
What a funny guy; not afraid to speak his mind. Doesn't advocate hitting women, but only that they may require a good slap every now and then. Barbara rehashes old ideologies but Sean still remains firm on the matter while she silently stares on in awe.
I recall comparisons of Connery and Moore back in the day as to who was the better Bond, and back then I think I would've said Moore, but today I'm not so sure. Also, there was The Saint series starring Moore back around the same time, and I used to watch that a lot, so maybe that was a nudge towards Moore.
And that Moonraker Mandela Effect much ado about Dolly and her braces, now that's just nuts. We just aren't remembering things right, because what would the alternative be? That our reality is anything but concrete. Maybe create another thread about existence.
RE: Random Thoughts - Maxmars - 11-08-2024
(11-08-2024, 08:59 PM)CCoburn Wrote: Barbara Walters Interview : Sean Connery
What a funny guy; not afraid to speak his mind. Doesn't advocate hitting women, but only that they may require a good slap every now and then. Barbara rehashes old ideologies but Sean still remains firm on the matter while she silently stares on in awe.
I recall comparisons of Connery and Moore back in the day as to who was the better Bond, and back then I think I would've said Moore, but today I'm not so sure. Also, there was The Saint series starring Moore back around the same time, and I used to watch that a lot, so maybe that was a nudge towards Moore.
And that Moonraker Mandela Effect much ado about Dolly and her braces, now that's just nuts. We just aren't remembering things right, because what would the alternative be? That our reality is anything but concrete. Maybe create another thread about existence.
I think the Walters interview of Connery was the first time I watched random ladies I knew go apoplectic.
I had never seen such a visceral reaction in them as when they discussed hearing his casually mentioning the "necessity of it."
I must have misogynistic roots, because it didn't affect my estimation that he was the better Bond.
As for the Moonraker braces Mandela... I still can't shake the certainty of my recollection... braces. I grant you, I may lack evidence.. but I still remember braces.
RE: Random Thoughts - l0st - 11-08-2024
I figured I would chime back in as it's been a while. I haven't totally forgotten about making a thread about the AI responses but I've been embroiled in a few things (nothing legally serious... just a lot of things that need getting done NOW) that have sapped up all my time.
Anyways, the answers were definitely interesting. Some do not jibe with what I actually KNOW (or think I know?) about these boards. I doubt they're correct but entertaining nonetheless. Perhaps I should make a thread and elicit some questions for the AI to answer about these CT boards? What are everyone's thoughts?
Edit: and Maxmars I'm sure you're reading.... What's your position on names? I'll run it by you first I guess but should I post it or redact and not bother?
RE: Random Thoughts - Maxmars - 11-09-2024
(11-08-2024, 10:22 PM)l0st Wrote: I figured I would chime back in as it's been a while. I haven't totally forgotten about making a thread about the AI responses but I've been embroiled in a few things (nothing legally serious... just a lot of things that need getting done NOW) that have sapped up all my time.
Anyways, the answers were definitely interesting. Some do not jibe with what I actually KNOW (or think I know?) about these boards. I doubt they're correct but entertaining nonetheless. Perhaps I should make a thread and elicit some questions for the AI to answer about these CT boards? What are everyone's thoughts?
Edit: and Maxmars I'm sure you're reading.... What's your position on names? I'll run it by you first I guess but should I post it or redact and not bother?
Yes I am reading... I would generally shy away from identities as a component... after all what can an "AI" know of human identity other than a label (name?)
Looking forward to the effort, I am genuinely interested.
We don't 'control' anyone's contributions here... please feel free to 'take a chance' with anything, just remember that myself, and other moderators, are compelled by the T&C's... we cannot 'decide' to overlook violations of that nature. (And please also remember we are not robots... we are human beings just like you, trying our best to serve the community as a whole... while making this ship sail steady and true.)
