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RE: Trump shot? - KKLoco - 07-16-2024
(07-16-2024, 10:10 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: The more I listen to this, it sounds like there is not only the woman screaming his name, but several other people too. They're not as loud as the woman screaming, but they're all saying the same thing "CROOKS...get over here!! What are you DOING???"
So where is "here"? Is this 'back to a group of people' who are gathered in a certain area? Maybe some protest group?
Who are these people who seem to know the shooter? The person who shot this video needs to be asked who these people were and to identify them. Then, the woman and any others with Crooks need to be identified, located and questioned...like RIGHT NOW!!
Out of all the videos of Crooks before the shooting, THAT one is the hardest to find. Why? Because it is the most telling. I’m going to put money on the fact that nothing will come from it, and it will disappear in short order.
SS Director took the blame — but she ain’t stepping down. We will have to wait until January for Trump to fire her incompetent ass. Trump had 5 SS agents covering him on stage. Two of those 5 were woman that weren’t over 5’ 6” tall. How do you use your body as a shield for someone, if you can’t cover their head (most vulnerable) from a threat. Had there been a second shooter, Trump would be dead. They did a horrible job of shielding him AFTER the shots were fired.
RE: Trump shot? - ArMaP - 07-16-2024
(07-16-2024, 10:10 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: The more I listen to this, it sounds like there is not only the woman screaming his name, but several other people too. They're not as loud as the woman screaming, but they're all saying the same thing "CROOKS...get over here!! What are you DOING???"
I cannot listen to it at the moment, but what I find strange about it is that someone would be able to not only see him but also to recognise him at that distance, as the shortest distance between the place where his body was and the closest part of the event area was around 100 metres.
Were other people outside the event area, on that private property where the shooter was?
RE: Trump shot? - FlyingClayDisk - 07-16-2024
(07-16-2024, 10:50 AM)ArMaP Wrote: I cannot listen to it at the moment, but what I find strange about it is that someone would be able to not only see him but also to recognise him at that distance, as the shortest distance between the place where his body was and the closest part of the event area was around 100 metres.
Were other people outside the event area, on that private property where the shooter was?
They probably saw him leave the group in the direction of the building, and then saw him get up on the building. If you watch the video, you will see it's only about 50-60 FEET from the building, so not far away at all. The video was taken by some other person. The people screaming sound like they are either beside the camera or behind it. The person taking the video does not seem to be part of the people screaming. An individual would be easily recognizable at this distance.
Edit - Someone over on ATS posted a picture of the security perimeter around the event. In the aerial picture there was a pie shaped piece cut out of the circular secured perimeter, and this is where the building was that the shooter was on top of. I don't have an explanation for this pie shaped cut out, but the shooter must have somehow known this. Additionally, I've seen reports which state the building where the shooter was had been a "Rally point" for either the local LEO's, or the SS, or both. I've not seen much more information than this, so I don't really know what this means; it's just notable. I understand what a 'rally point' means in general terms, but I don't understand what it meant in the context of that specific day, nor how it was intended to be used and/or for what purpose.
RE: Trump shot? - KKLoco - 07-16-2024
(07-16-2024, 10:50 AM)ArMaP Wrote: I cannot listen to it at the moment, but what I find strange about it is that someone would be able to not only see him but also to recognise him at that distance, as the shortest distance between the place where his body was and the closest part of the event area was around 100 metres.
Were other people outside the event area, on that private property where the shooter was?
Have you seen pics of the dude? He’s very distinct looking. Huge underbite of a chin, long scraggly hair, and scrawny. Not many people have his features. In fact, when I first saw a pic of him I said to myself ‘This dude had to get bullied in school’, and viola that was confirmed a couple hours later….
RE: Trump shot? - FlyingClayDisk - 07-16-2024
(07-16-2024, 10:44 AM)KKLoco Wrote: Out of all the videos of Crooks before the shooting, THAT one is the hardest to find. Why? Because it is the most telling. I’m going to put money on the fact that nothing will come from it, and it will disappear in short order.
SS Director took the blame — but she ain’t stepping down. We will have to wait until January for Trump to fire her incompetent ass. Trump had 5 SS agents covering him on stage. Two of those 5 were woman that weren’t over 5’ 6” tall. How do you use your body as a shield for someone, if you can’t cover their head (most vulnerable) from a threat. Had there been a second shooter, Trump would be dead. They did a horrible job of shielding him AFTER the shots were fired.
Well, I don't know. TMZ is pretty tenacious about this kind of thing. They don't back down very easy, especially when they think they've got something no one else has.
And yes, this is an absolute, 100%, SS failure, no matter how anyone tries to slice and dice it. I've worked around the SS before and they are generally not clowns, BUT this was back in 2008. And, it was Obama they were protecting. They left not a single stone un-turned for about a mile in every direction from where Obama would be. Seriously, we had to weld manhole covers shut upwards of a mile from any place he or anyone else from his entourage were going to be. We're STILL cutting some of those welds apart fully 16 years after the fact! There were counter-snipers on every rooftop, and most certainly all of the highest ones. The place was crawling with counter-snipers. It was incredible. They had a whole separate cargo aircraft just for them. So, there was AF1, and two (2) C-17 GlobeMaster aircraft (one for the president's vehicles, and the 2nd for the SS contingent). It was like a mobile army!
Much different SS now, I guess.
RE: Trump shot? - ArMaP - 07-16-2024
(07-16-2024, 11:07 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: They probably saw him leave the group in the direction of the building, and then saw him get up on the building. If you watch the video, you will see it's only about 50-60 FEET from the building, so not far away at all.
I watched the video, but that's the problem with videos or photos without enough context, we can't judge the distance based on a video from an unknown camera, as we can't know if there was any kind of zoom in place.
Where was the camera (and the people around it)? In the event grounds? On the private property where the shooter climbed to the roof of that building?
After writing the above I went looking for more information and found a video that appears to show a wider view, so we can see that people were close to that company's buildings, although we still can't know the distance, but it appears to be real close to the building, so dismiss what I say above, at least in part.
Quote:Edit - Someone over on ATS posted a picture of the security perimeter around the event. In the aerial picture there was a pie shaped piece cut out of the circular secured perimeter, and this is where the building was that the shooter was on top of.
If you could post that picture it would be great.
RE: Trump shot? - KKLoco - 07-16-2024
Reports of a second shooter on the water tower.
https://x.com/In2ThinAir/status/1813012683496579257?ref_twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet=
Here is a possible synopsis of what happened:
Two shooters acting together. A specific time was allocated for the shootings to commence. The police officer climbing the roof and engaging Crooks, escalated Crooks actions sooner than the pre-planned time frame. Crooks fired the first three shots in haste. Which triggered the second shooter to shoot the last 5. Both snipers missed as they were rushed to action. If you listen to the shots, the first 3 are drawn out and not succinct. The last 5 come a few seconds later and have a completely different cadence (rapid and consecutive) to them.
(07-16-2024, 06:45 AM)ArMaP Wrote: Your link is not accessible outside the US.
What is BlackRock? Why is it relevant?
Or he was already suicidal and decided to "kill two birds with a stone" (no pun intended).
Wait what? You’ve been a mod on ATS for 20 years and you don’t know what BlackRock is?
Its the worlds largest asset management company. One of the richest companies in the entire world. You can thank them for much of the inflated housing prices during the scamdemic. They swooped in and bought countless residential properties. I’ll just sum them up simply by saying they are evil monopolistic motherfuckers. They work hand in had with the WEF.
RE: Trump shot? - FlyingClayDisk - 07-16-2024
(07-16-2024, 12:46 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Reports of a second shooter on the water tower.
https://x.com/In2ThinAir/status/1813012683496579257?ref_twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet=
Here is a possible synopsis of what happened:
(07-16-2024, 12:46 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Two shooters acting together. A specific time was allocated for the shootings to commence. The police officer climbing the roof and engaging Crooks, escalated Crooks actions sooner than the pre-planned time frame. Crooks fired the first three shots in haste. Which triggered the second shooter to shoot the last 5. Both snipers missed as they were rushed to action. If you listen to the shots, the first 3 are drawn out and not succinct. The last 5 come a few seconds later and have a completely different cadence (rapid and consecutive) to them.
Hmmmm...well, this is certainly a development if true. I'm not particularly liking what I hear in those two X videos; the stories don't seem to line up with other events, but more digestion is required.
RE: Trump shot? - Blaine91555 - 07-16-2024
(07-15-2024, 11:22 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Is this more evidence for you?
https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1812340071825088774
???????
That's not the video of someone screaming about cutting peoples throats we were talking about? You have one to many beers
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It's obvious who shot at Trump.
https://1drv.ms/v/c/0eb25b17294fe272/EW42QfS2aKxJpOGPybUuFmABW20gs8EvGX8N_XMWoqkZtA?e=kexlhS
There is no way to tell who that is. The video is too low quality.
RE: Trump shot? - user123 - 07-16-2024
(07-16-2024, 11:07 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: They probably saw him leave the group in the direction of the building, and then saw him get up on the building. If you watch the video, you will see it's only about 50-60 FEET from the building, so not far away at all. The video was taken by some other person. The people screaming sound like they are either beside the camera or behind it. The person taking the video does not seem to be part of the people screaming. An individual would be easily recognizable at this distance.
Edit - Someone over on ATS posted a picture of the security perimeter around the event. In the aerial picture there was a pie shaped piece cut out of the circular secured perimeter, and this is where the building was that the shooter was on top of. I don't have an explanation for this pie shaped cut out, but the shooter must have somehow known this. Additionally, I've seen reports which state the building where the shooter was had been a "Rally point" for either the local LEO's, or the SS, or both. I've not seen much more information than this, so I don't really know what this means; it's just notable. I understand what a 'rally point' means in general terms, but I don't understand what it meant in the context of that specific day, nor how it was intended to be used and/or for what purpose.
FCD, do you happen to remember which thread had that pic of the security perimeter? Wanting to show it to someone.
I'm wondering. If LEO were inside that building, how did they not hear him walking around on the roof? It's a metal roof on a one-story building.
