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RE: Columbia University has fallen - putnam6 - 04-25-2024

Does anybody else want to pretend this crap is being grown organically on our campuses anymore? Again I have no problem with local campus organic activism but when outside people come on campus it stops being organic and starts being coercive entrapment or worse manufactured

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/police-take-multiple-protesters-into-custody-emory-universitys-

It's being seeded watered and fertilized by outside influences to achieve chaos and confusion. Columbia admitted it, and now so does Emory. Outside influences want to rachet up the tension pretending as if these protests are 100% from the student body.

Its why USC arrested those who were on the campus illegally, you know "non students" 93 total arrested for tresspassing. 

Funny how even in liberal bastions like Austin and Atlanta they aren't screwing around and letting "the movement" get a foothold.

You know what else is called a movement?

Again in the 60s and 70s those protests were real and they grew on campuses like Columbia and Kent State, from actual students. It didn't have to be energized, trained, or educated, from people from the outside.  

https://vxtwitter.com/lookner/status/1783539985057984878 

Emory University Atlanta arresting protesters says the protesters "were not members of our community"
Quote:Police take multiple protesters into custody on Emory University’s campusBy WSBTV.com News StaffApril 25, 2024 at 12:06 pm EDTPolice take multiple protesters into custody on Emory University’s campusATLANTA — Police have taken several protesters in custody on Emory University’s campus.
NewsChopper 2 flew over the scene where there is a large police presence. Channel 2′s Tom Regan spotted multiple Atlanta police officers, Emory campus police officers and Georgia State Patrol troopers responding to the protests.
It’s unclear how many people are in custody and if they are being charged.
Emory University issued the following statement:
“Several dozen protesters trespassed onto Emory University Campus early Thursday morning and set up tents on the quad. These individuals are not members of our community. They are activists attempting to disrupt our university as students finish classes and prepare for finals. Emory does not tolerate vandalism or any criminal activity on campus.”



RE: Columbia University has fallen - Byrd - 04-25-2024

(04-24-2024, 03:42 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Hanoi Byrd?

lol
C'mon.

You know better.

Leave that stuff on ATS.  Don't bring it here.  If you want to respond, then I'm happy to discuss.  But leave name-calling on ATS.


RE: Columbia University has fallen - DBCowboy - 04-25-2024

(04-25-2024, 06:55 PM)Byrd Wrote: C'mon.

You know better.

Leave that stuff on ATS.  Don't bring it here.  If you want to respond, then I'm happy to discuss.  But leave name-calling on ATS.

Sorry, it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth when I have to remember being called a baby-burner and spit on.

We had to travel in civilian clothes to avoid people attacking us.

It was a wonderful time.

But remember, we had a draft and people were protesting that.

People are now advocating for terrorist organizations.


RE: Columbia University has fallen - FlyersFan - 04-26-2024

Soros money is funding and coordinating the protests.
The anti-Jew hate that has been indoctrinated into the students 
by the woke/dei/socialist teachers has found fertile ground.

George Soros is paying student radicals who are fueling nationwide explosion of Israel-hating protests


RE: Columbia University has fallen - Blaine91555 - 04-26-2024

(04-25-2024, 08:07 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Sorry, it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth when I have to remember being called a baby-burner and spit on.

I'm so sorry that happened to you. One thing I hope you know is there were two very distinct groups of protestors. Peace protestors and militant anti-war protestors.

I like most of the peace protestors registered willingly and most of us walked away during the time when the violent groups started to form. Remember we were kids dealing with watching the nightly body counts on the news every night and watching friends and loved ones come home in body bags. The group I aligned with were for peace, but we were not against those who served. In my community we welcomed people back and honored them.

I think we are seeing the same here and now at the universities. Most kids, and they are kids, are protesting for good reasons, but it's the few instigators and those driven by violence who get all the attention. Most of those kids don't have clue other than its popular to protest.

Thank you so much for your service. Beer Thumbup Thumbup


RE: Columbia University has fallen - Maxmars - 04-26-2024

I used to embraced the ideal expressed long ago... "Agitate, agitate" as a philosophy of civic engagement.  Social media changed all that.

Now some embrace the idea as a call to offend... I think it may have been a similar choice in the Anti-Vietnam War times as it is now.  

Some embrace the call for peace, other the struggle against war... we manifest the cause we embrace.

Then there are those who embrace the hatred of a people... for them there will be no peace, ever.


RE: Columbia University has fallen - putnam6 - 04-26-2024

Yeah if you have to pay for it, it's not organic local home-grown protesting. Never has been, never will be 


https://insiderpaper.com/george-soros-paying-student-protesters-across-us-colleges-report/
Quote:George Soros and Rockefeller foundations paying students of US colleges who are arranging nationwide protestsTwo major American philanthropic foundations, Rockefeller and Soros, are backing a group that pays certain activists. These protestors are disrupting college campuses across the country, WSJ reported.
The anti-Israel demonstrations initially erupted when students occupied Columbia University’s Morningside Heights campus lawn last week, now spreading across the nation.
Copycat tent encampments have emerged at various colleges, such as Harvard, Yale, Berkeley in California, Ohio State University, and Emory in Georgia. All were arranged by branches of the Soros-backed Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), resulting in clashes with law enforcement at some locations.
At three colleges, protests are being fueled by paid radicals who are fellows of a Soros-funded group called the US Campaign for Palestinian Rights (USCPR).
The USCPR offers community-based fellows up to $7,800 and campus-based fellows between $2,880 and $3,660 to dedicate eight hours a week to organizing campaigns led by Palestinian organizations. They’re taught to “rise up, to revolution.”
This radical group has received over $300,000 from Soros’ Open Society Foundations since 2017 and $355,000 from the Rockefeller Brothers Fund since 2019. The SJP’s main organization has been financially supported by a network of nonprofits ultimately backed by Soros and other left-wing investors.



RE: Columbia University has fallen - guyfriday - 04-26-2024

(04-26-2024, 08:30 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Soros money is funding and coordinating the protests.
The anti-Jew hate that has been indoctrinated into the students 
by the woke/dei/socialist teachers has found fertile ground.

George Soros is paying student radicals who are fueling nationwide explosion of Israel-hating protests

Odd how the article stresses the George Soros angle, and ignores the facts that Alex Soros is now calling the shots on this. 

Quote:George Soros and his hard-left acolytes are paying agitators who are fueling the explosion of radical anti-Israel protests at colleges across the country.
The protests, which began when students took over Columbia University’s Morningside Heights campus lawn last week, have mushroomed nationwide.
Copycat tent cities have been set up at colleges including Harvard, Yale, Berkeley in California, the Ohio State University and Emory in Georgia — all of them organized by branches of the Soros-funded Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) — and at some, students have clashed with police.

also not mention is how when attacked in the media Soros (both George and Alex) have been known to hide behind their Jewish Heritage. Now why would a Jewish born family be pushing this anti-Jewish agenda, unless?


RE: Columbia University has fallen - Byrd - 04-26-2024

(04-25-2024, 08:07 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Sorry, it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth when I have to remember being called a baby-burner and spit on.

We had to travel in civilian clothes to avoid people attacking us.

It was a wonderful time.

But remember, we had a draft and people were protesting that.

People are now advocating for terrorist organizations.
Thank you.

A more reasoned answer.  You might not remember that I'm a military brat and my dad was there in the middle of the fighting -- he did two tours and was embedded with the Vietnamese as an intelligence agent.  My former boss was also there as infantry.  Neither was spat upon and they did wear their uniforms while traveling.

I do remember the protests (I disagreed at that time with the protesters.) 

However, most of today's protests are against Israel for their over-the-top actions.  I can see launching attacks against Hamas (and today's weapons are sophisticated enough that surgical strikes, like the one against Bin Ladin and many other foes, can be done -- even when the target is inside a secured area and surrounded by civilians.)  

However, that's not what's being done.  Israel has the right to defend itself -- but killing aid workers and children don't come under that umbrella.

If you care to check closely (not the headlines but the news stories themselves or the organization) you will find that the protests have two main key points -- stopping the killing of civilians and the right of the Palestinians to have a free state with the borders that exist as of 1967: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Line_(Israel)#:~:text=The%20Green%20Line%20is%20often,of%20UN%20General%20Assembly%20resolutions

Mostly it's about ending the killings, as I'm sure you've probably noticed in reading articles from multiple news outlets. Peaceful protests are a guaranteed right under the First Amendment (even if I disagree with what's being protested.)  However, what we're seeing (at least in Texas) is an almost hysterical reaction to marches and protests that turns the whole thing violent.  I think that's wrong, and it's the kind of inane reaction that's blown up before (Vietnam War protest, civil rights protests, etc.)  Violent actions against protesters usually get an immediate backlash from those in the area, and that always turns violent.

Again, feel free to disagree or hammer a point with references.  I'm up for that.

(04-26-2024, 01:06 PM)Blaine91555 Wrote: I'm so sorry that happened to you. One thing I hope you know is there were two very distinct groups of protestors. Peace protestors and militant anti-war protestors.

I like most of the peace protestors registered willingly and most of us walked away during the time when the violent groups started to form. Remember we were kids dealing with watching the nightly body counts on the news every night and watching friends and loved ones come home in body bags. The group I aligned with were for peace, but we were not against those who served. In my community we welcomed people back and honored them.

I think we are seeing the same here and now at the universities. Most kids, and they are kids, are protesting for good reasons, but it's the few instigators and those driven by violence who get all the attention. Most of those kids don't have clue other than its popular to protest.

Thank you so much for your service. Beer Thumbup Thumbup

​​​​​​Thanks for your response.  I remember the same things that you point out -- most of the campus protesters were for peace and not against the ones who served.  And I remember communities welcoming service members home.

I agree that we're seeing the same kind of things today.


RE: Columbia University has fallen - Kenzo - 04-27-2024

"I'm a peace protester!"

 Hezbollah's flag

"I'm a peace protester!"

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TERROR: The occupation of college campuses across the US is a well organized and funded operation led by Soros-backed groups including Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) and the US Campaign for Palestinian Rights (USCPR). The Soros-backed NGOs pay outside agitators $7800 and campus activists $3600 each. Half of the violent protestors who have been arrested nationally are not students but NGO affiliated agitators. Hamas is an internationally recognized terror group and with the help of these NGOs it is recruiting and radicalizing thousands of students across the country


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