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RE: Trump shot? - Lysergic - 07-24-2024

https://x.com/BasedTorba/status/1816180238918824255


RE: Trump shot? - boredhere74 - 07-26-2024

And there you have it. The timeline how long (or short) it is before the "normal" American forgets an in the open completely blown gov op. Now its all heels up harris, and Big Mike's endorsement. The country is honestly doomed.


RE: Trump shot? - Maxmars - 07-26-2024

(07-26-2024, 05:32 PM)boredhere74 Wrote: And there you have it. The timeline how long (or short) it is before the "normal" American forgets an in the open completely blown gov op. Now its all heels up harris, and Big Mike's endorsement. The country is honestly doomed.

Not necessarily, although it is disappointing to note how the media cycle controls public attention-span.

I think a shift in "normal" is mostly inevitable.  People (most notably on the internet) seem to be coming to appreciate how an important conversation about something does not end when the news shifts focus (for whatever reason, conspiratorial or not.)  That tendency was a function of the "programming" of the so-called 'boob tube."  Television practically defined public dialogue for generations... that is ending, in my opinion.

The country is different now than it was half a century ago... it was then different than it was a half-century before that... In that sense it can only be doomed if we only think of today.

Still... I get you.


RE: Trump shot? - guyfriday - 07-26-2024

(07-24-2024, 05:20 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: I think (now) we may have a tiny fragment of the "real" story.  I've wondered, since the very first report of the 2nd floor window, if the reason for counter-snipers not being on the same roof as the shooter might have been temperature related.  "It's too hot up here!"  Cheatle's testimony about the roof being too sloped is BS...the real reason was it was too 'uncomfortable' for their pretty little backsides.  So, they moved inside where it was nice and cool with air conditioning. 

This is the first fragment of information which has come out which makes a little bit of sense.  There's absolutely NO excuse for it, but at least it makes 'some' sense.  Sitting on a hot metal roof in the direct sun, wearing a (likely) black uniform would be very hot indeed.  Anyone who's spent any time on a roof can attest to just how unpleasant it can be.  Wearing dark colored BDU's and a flak jacket would make it all the more unpleasant.  SO....they opted for personal comfort.

I can also somewhat believe they may have left their post (inside in the A/C) to go look for the shooter (and wound up missing him on the roof).  This makes a little sense.  It's totally bad form and bad tactics, but it makes a bit of sense.  They likely received a radio call of a person around or on the building, and not knowing exactly 'which' roof he was on, they went outside to go look for him (not knowing he would have shown up right in front of them had they just stayed where they were).  I can sort of believe this.

I think (now...finally) we are getting 'pieces' of the real story.  It seems to me the ultimate failure is still on the USSS's doorstep.  They failed to coordinate how the local LEO's should respond, and what communication methods would be used.  The local LEO's were just there to be 'bodies' and a 'show of force'.  If they saw something, then great, but the SS was in charge, and they had an intentionally lax protection force by orders from above.  They probably 'hoped' something would happen...and it did.

Both Cheatle and the command element of the force from the SS who showed up on July 13th to protect Trump should be tried in a court of law for reckless disregard of duties and treason.

My time as a DM (Designated Marksman) it wasn't uncommon in a summer job where you had time to set-up shop so to speak, to bring an insulated mat with you. Sure a Boonie hat and wet towel also helps, but metal roofing needs a mat. From my time in the service, this would have been unacceptable to all extremes, and someone's head would have rolled, either in public or behind closed doors. 

The more I watched the video of this event, the more I get the feeling that the only Secret Service protecting Trump were the few that were directly around him. Everyone else seemed to be distractions for the crowd. 


One other thing that bothers me about this event, and this has nothing to do with the above reply, where were the people on the stage sitting when they get shot and does those hits make any sense in reference to where Crook was shooting from?


RE: Trump shot? - Encia22 - 07-27-2024

(07-26-2024, 08:43 PM)guyfriday Wrote: One other thing that bothers me about this event, and this has nothing to do with the above reply, where were the people on the stage sitting when they get shot and does those hits make any sense in reference to where Crook was shooting from?

Hi, perhaps this video (posted by Maxmars elsewhere) helps answer some of your questions.



Beer

This next video by the same Youtuber as in my previous post explains the kids movements before he got up on the roof.



Beer


RE: Trump shot? - Lysergic - 07-27-2024

Well that's embarrassing.

Would've been better if he just self deleted.

Instead he helped his enemies.


RE: Trump shot? - JOM - 07-27-2024

(07-21-2024, 07:52 AM)ArMaP Wrote: Continuing my previous post, here are two images comparing one shot from the first group (the second shot, so we don't have the Trump's voice interfering with the shot sound) with the first shot from the second group.

First group, second shot.
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/TFgtcB2.jpeg]

Second group, first shot.
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/XnEpgdW.jpeg]

As we can see they look very similar, both in the echoes and in the frequencies (seen on the spectrogram above the waveform), so I think either only one gun was used or two identical guns with identical ammunition that were close to each other.

PS: Looking at the first image we can see that the sound of the shot and consequent echoes has a duration of 0.3 seconds. The shots of the second group were fired at an interval shorter than 0.3 seconds, so we have some the end of an echo mixing with the next shot.

The friend of the dead assassin who is thought to be the 2nd shooter was from the same rifle club. That would be consistent with having a similar rifle to each other too, IMO.  It doesn't have to be so, but it would be logical to me anyway. 

I want to add, I like your graphs on here.


RE: Trump shot? - ArMaP - 07-27-2024

(07-27-2024, 03:49 PM)JOM Wrote: I want to add, I like your graphs on here.

Thanks. Smile


RE: Trump shot? - 727Sky - 08-01-2024

Quote:Erik Prince is an American entrepreneur, former U.S. Navy SEAL Officer and founder of the private military company Blackwater. Returning as a guest and fan favorite on SRS, Erik joins Shawn for an in-depth exploration of the recent assassination attempt on former President Donald J. Trump. Together, they delve into unresolved security and operational issues surrounding the tragic event, speculating on how the situation might evolve as new information emerges. Leveraging their backgrounds, Shawn and Erik offer distinctive perspectives rarely found in mainstream media coverage.
 
 
00:00 - Introduction 03:08 - Assassination analysis 14:39 - Was this a conspiracy from higher up? 23:55 - Types of security needed 31:30 - Obama 38:16 - A positive outlook 49:05 - Who is ‘they?’ 1:05:50 - Agency overreach 1:26:33 - Defending against drones 1:28:49 - Israel 1:41:25 - Affluenza




RE: Trump shot? - 727Sky - 08-02-2024

Disturbing and inept IMO