(05-19-2024, 02:59 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Got to ask why he needed to be summoned to the White Houe for this? What for? an abundance of caution, is something larger going on? 

Just asking questions... not to mention the most important one would his death help or hinder stability in the region?

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U.S. President Joe Biden was summoned to the White House for an urgent briefing following reports of an accident involving the helicopter carrying the president of Raisi.

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(05-19-2024, 06:36 PM)Byrd Wrote: Presidents ALWAYS are called to the office for debriefings when anything happens to an international leader.  The FBI, CIA, and foreign governments will exchange messages and information.  

Now... Trump might not have gone, but you can bet your nickels that Pence would have showed up.

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No, the President of the United States is not always called back to the White House when something happens to a world leader. The decision to recall the President would depend on the nature and significance of the event involving the world leader, as well as the potential impact on U.S. interests and international relations. In some cases, high-level officials or diplomats may handle the situation without requiring the President’s immediate return to the White House.
In situations where a world leader faces a critical event such as a health crisis, political upheaval, or a significant international incident, it is possible that the President may need to be briefed or involved in decision-making remotely while away from the White House. Modern communication technologies allow for real-time updates and consultations between world leaders and their advisors, even if they are not physically present in Washington D.C.
The protocol for handling such scenarios would likely involve a coordinated response by various government agencies, diplomatic channels, and national security advisors to assess the situation and determine the appropriate course of action. The decision to involve the President directly would be based on factors such as national security implications, diplomatic considerations, and strategic interests.
Overall, while there may be instances where it is necessary for the President to return to the White House promptly due to an event involving a world leader, it is not an automatic requirement for every such situation.
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(05-19-2024, 07:48 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Because I'm not an avid follower of the continuous news cycle regarding Iran, I am wondering if the President's death actually creates a 'real' power vacuum.  I had the impression that the real authority in Iran was from their Clergy.

I suspect Presidents almost never "die in accidents."  Is it wrong that I am anticipating something uglier to surface... and assuming that's not the case, won't the media do their usual fear-stoking and "attention-grabbing" featuring rampant talking-head speculation and misinformation?

He said, waiting for the flurry of monetized 'headline' style video clips... (most featuring a 'hottie' as the thumbnail image of the video.)

(05-19-2024, 08:02 PM)putnam6 Wrote: It could be an accident, but he no doubt had enemies domestically regionally and internationally

(05-19-2024, 08:51 PM)schuyler Wrote: Ukranian news is reporting he is dead  just checked the American MSM, and all of the are just saying he's missing and a 'hard landing."

(05-19-2024, 08:26 PM)Zaphod58 Wrote: The helicopter he was flying on was grounded in several countries.  They built 711 of them, and they had over 430 accidents since it first flew in 1968.  Not all of those were write offs, but a vast majority of them were.  Add in fog and mountains, and it's about 99% certain this was CFIT or a mechanical failure.

A "hard landing" is any landing that doesn't immediately turn the helicopter into its component pieces and kill everyone on board.  There can be a fire or an explosion afterwards, it's just saying that it didn't immediately destroy it.

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Two locations were identified by the Turkish UAV as possible crash sites.  It appears that it may have hit the side of a mountain while in a valley, and rolled down the mountain towards the bottom of the valley.