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RE: Psychiatry Pseudoscience? - Karl12 - 05-14-2024
Thanks for posting those links Kenzo and that quote by Thomas Insel (former Director of the National Institute of Mental Health) pretty much sums things up - the case studies in that book also look to be an interesting read.
Have you ever seen this documentary? Would definitely recommend it.
Trailer:
Quote:This full-length, award-winning documentary unearths the shattering truth that millions of people worldwide are injured by prescribed psychiatric medications. Interweaving stories of harm with expert testimony, the film reveals how a profit-driven industry hides the risks of long-term use. This untold story is a compelling call to examine the consequences of medicating normal human suffering.
Full Documentary
Cheers.
RE: Psychiatry Pseudoscience? - ArMaP - 05-14-2024
(05-13-2024, 03:09 PM)Maxmars Wrote: We need Psychiatrists and doctors to more strongly align with the idea of 'do no harm' and 'the objective is to heal and comfort the patient" and NOT make it "easier" for the parent, partner, or school teacher... Too many are reduced to zombies, rendered unable to even attempt to cope, or learn how to. And some sadly give up trying. But zombies make for complaint and silent patients... easier for them... and no complaints.
True. Many doctors are more medication dispensers than doctors.
Many years ago we had a family doctor that once prescribed chicken soup to my mother. Too bad he stopped working as a doctor to dedicate his time to the newly made Lisbon mosque.
After that we had another that simply didn't care about the patients. When my elder sister talked to him about my father (who had prostate cancer) and about what we could his answer was mostly to tell my sister that my father was old so it was normal to have cancer and die from it.
When my younger sister had depression she was prescribed several medications, some just to compensate the strong effect of the anti-depressive drugs. A doctor that does not care just prescribes the anti-depressants, some of them with the interesting side-effect of making people suicidal.
RE: Psychiatry Pseudoscience? - Kenzo - 05-14-2024
(05-14-2024, 01:54 AM)Karl12 Wrote: Thanks for posting those links Kenzo and that quote by Thomas Insel (former Director of the National Institute of Mental Health) pretty much sums things up - the case studies in that book also look to be an interesting read.
Have you ever seen this documentary? Would definitely recommend it.
Trailer:
[Video: https://youtu.be/i289JyHERts]
Cheers.
Nope not seen that documentary , look`s really good thank you .
RE: Psychiatry Pseudoscience? - Karl12 - 05-14-2024
Nice one Kenzo, was re-reading through this article and there truly is some fascinating info - it also gives the background to this outrageous quote:
Quote:• "We have made a useful attack upon a number of professions. The two easiest of them naturally are the teaching profession and the Church; the two most difficult are law and medicine. . If we are to infiltrate the professional and social activities of other people I think we must imitate the Totalitarians and organize some kind of fifth column activity."
British military psychiatrist Colonel John Rawlings Rees (first president of Chisholm's World Federation of Mental Health and chair of the Tavistock Institute) - address to the annual meeting of the UK's National Council for Mental Hygiene.
RE: Psychiatry Pseudoscience? - Hypntick - 05-18-2024
(05-13-2024, 09:11 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Sure. I have my own opinion about depression and think it's over diagnosed. But I could easily be wrong about that. All I can tell ya' is that I know four people with schizophrenia, and the one person who I know about meds on, the meds stop the demons. The hallucinations and delusions are real. So their illness is real. Either that, or they are connected to another reality and the demons actually are real and the human mind can't deal with that fact so it breaks down. (and I do think that could be true) But that's a whole other discussion ...
I had to talk my psychiatrist out of a depression diagnosis. Yeah, I feel down and depressed at times; everyone does; it's a fairly normal aspect of living. What I had to convince her of was my need to continue anti-anxiety medication. I know most of the anti-depressants out there are supposed to help with both. However, I have a very strong suicidal tendency when I am on an anti-depressant. When I'm on a medication specifically tailored toward anti-anxiety, in my case, Xanax, it's the only thing that helps keep the panic away. Pantophobia would be the closest thing to what I experience, which is no longer a diagnosis, interestingly enough.
RE: Psychiatry Pseudoscience? - Karl12 - 05-20-2024
(05-13-2024, 10:16 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: It's so hard to know the full scale of this. I always think, we only know 1% of this, and that 1% is horrifying in and of itself.
Imagine how horrifying the 99% is that got destroyed.
Thanks for all that info. You opened new doors of thought on this topic. Just when you think you've seen it all, eh?
Yes mate some rather sinister stuff being discussed in this conversation regarding authenticated government documentation.
• Dr. Colin Ross | MK ULTRA: Mind Control, Psychiatry, & The CIA:
Quote:Join The Higherside Chats podcast, as host, Greg Carlwood, talks MK ULTRA: Mind Control, Psychiatry, & The CIA with guest, Colin Ross.
As many of us who are familiar with the crimes of the deep state know, there are few projects that have managed to the earn the reputation synonymous with the litany of mind control experiments conducted by the CIA during the 60s.
Better known as MK ULTRA, these sadistic experiments have haunted government agencies for decades, while a slow drip of heavily redacted documents finds it's way into the public arena, bringing with it more question than answer.
Fortunately, today's guest, Dr.Ross is an internationally renowned clinician, researcher, author and lecturer in the field of dissociation and trauma-related disorders.
Authoring 29 books and over 200 professional papers, Colin is the founder and President of the Colin A. Ross Institute for Psychological Trauma and he joins The Higherside to help shed some insight into the deep states mind control campaign.
Almost seems like they took the Nuremberg Code and flushed it down the toilet.
RE: Psychiatry Pseudoscience? - l0st - 05-20-2024
I agree with the Doc, most psychiatry is psuedo-science. Its all opinions and feeling with nothing measurable, and no predictable or replicable outcome in most cases. There might be certain specific areas like Schizophrenia where the meds do seem to work, but we don't know why.
I watched big pharma escalate all this stuff in the 90s. Nobody ever heard of autism, or ADD, Bipolar, etc and the next thing you know every other kid is being diagnosed with some sort of mental disorder for doing things kids have always done like not listening to their teachers and parents, getting into fights, petty theft, etc. Now its like these are scapegoat diagnoses. Oh, you have an unruly son? Well, just medicate him!
I'm not trying to be politically divisive here, but I do think there is a certain generation that really took very little interest in their own children, preferred to keep them locked away in intramurals or day care or with the babysitter so they could go about their own lives unabated. I think pharma responded with medications to essentially tranquilize the kids of parents who simply did not want to be parents.
I have a brother whom my parents discussed medicating. They felt unsure about it and asked my opinion. What I told them is that all I had observed was the unruly behavior of a typical 14 year old boy. Rebellion used to be considered a part of growing up and obtaining one's own independence. The opted NOT to medicate him. He turned out fine, grew out of it, and went to college and now works a decent job.
One might even argue that we are seeing a feminization of the United States where behavior very typical of a young adult male or males in general is repeatedly targeted and cast in a negative manner. Behavior that 40 years ago was considered 100% normal.
RE: Psychiatry Pseudoscience? - Nerb - 05-20-2024
(05-18-2024, 10:25 PM)Hypntick Wrote: I had to talk my psychiatrist out of a depression diagnosis. Yeah, I feel down and depressed at times; everyone does; it's a fairly normal aspect of living. What I had to convince her of was my need to continue anti-anxiety medication. I know most of the anti-depressants out there are supposed to help with both. However, I have a very strong suicidal tendency when I am on an anti-depressant. When I'm on a medication specifically tailored toward anti-anxiety, in my case, Xanax, it's the only thing that helps keep the panic away. Pantophobia would be the closest thing to what I experience, which is no longer a diagnosis, interestingly enough.
The thing that used to relieve me of any anxiety instantly was Cannabis. One puff is all it would take and I could literally feel the stress and anxiety flowing downwards and away from me. Incredible.
Not for everyone I know but thought I'd add that for those who may think Cannabis couldn't have such strong healing effects beyond the wierd stuff.
It's not what we do to a head but the head we do it to.
Doctors need to often pay a heck of a lot more attention to the individual person and not try so hard to fit them into a box to feel a sense of satisfaction for themselves or kudos from their peers for getting another statistic back out the door and another box ticked.
Be Well Hypntick. I hope you never feel afraid when you are here with us.
RE: Psychiatry Pseudoscience? - Maxmars - 05-20-2024
I have to add something about my opinion here that may seem like an apology for those mental health professionals many are now questioning. It is not intended that way, but how you perceive the message is completely within your right to own.
Essentially, you have to trust the heart and intent of the healer. Most of these people are not even cognizant of foundational 'presumptions' behind what they were taught... and firmly rely on 'statistics' to form their framework of diagnosis. They have, within their industry, amassed vast amounts of data and observation... and much of their conjecture provides a workable, nominal, approach to mental health service.
Even if I am just as dismayed at the 'unscientific and unmeasurable' way psychological diagnosis takes form, their practices have actually helped uncountable people. It's hard to create a narrative of this as some manner of flim-flammery, a giant 'con' of sorts. As you get older, and meet more people in your world, you begin to discover that the "narrative of perpetual evil" is, in and of itself, a hindrance to evaluating the world rationally.
I think the reason for the problem is somewhere near the fact that the mind is not "only' a physical reality. Since it can't be measured, only inferred, there is a gap between... "well this works!" and "How does it work?" (let alone, "Why does it work?") The mind is not an "object"... only the brain is. Too be honest with you, I have more respect for the diligent and determined psychologist, than the technocrat psychiatrists for whom it's all "science" an no "art."
Enter exploitation... now I'm angry again.
RE: Psychiatry Pseudoscience? - ArMaP - 05-21-2024
(05-20-2024, 08:23 PM)l0st Wrote: Its all opinions and feeling with nothing measurable, and no predictable or replicable outcome in most cases.
That happens with other non-measurable areas, like pain.
Just because we can't measure it doesn't mean it's pseudo-science.
