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RE: A new UAP whistleblower has come forward what IS the government is hiding - Sirius - 11-12-2024
(10-09-2024, 04:22 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: And today here is Shellenberger on Joe Rogan. He's on quite a roll. They don't start talking about UAP until about 2:20 in to it. Hilarious how Rogan plays the role of the guy going "hmm... what are these 'UAP' things you're talking about" like he'd never heard of any of this stuff before:
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3HK5Yy1AI&t=8490s]
Edit: hmm lets see if this link going right to the proper timestamp since the embedded video tag seems to ignore it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3HK5Yy1AI&t=8605s
Only watched this now, what a slippery dude. It's good that Joe pushed him.
RE: A new UAP whistleblower has come forward what IS the government is hiding - putnam6 - 11-13-2024
(11-11-2024, 10:03 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: The US Government in 80s:
"We don't know how many times we have to say this, there is no such place as Area 51, Dreamland, or Groom Lake. It's fiction."
* Keyhole launches the predecessor to Google Earth in 2001. Google acquires Keyhole in 2004. Google Earth is launched in 2005..
Government doesn't say anything but allows entire planet to view the base on satellite for 12 years.
Government finally admits existence in 2013.
We are in the 2001 to 2013 time with UAPs. In between "read between the lines disclosure" and "admitting it disclosure".
Plus "Immaculate Constellation" kinda goes with my best encounter. They were like satellites only they could move at varied speeds and fall into a "fingertip 4" formation. Looked like a training exercise in space.
No strobes. No variance in luminosity. Just 4 "satellites" catching up to each other falling into line.
I was out away from the city in Arizona camping and had an impulse to "look for UFOs."
And they were in orbit, and moving at a terminal velocity speed across the sky from due West to East.
Someone later told me those were a formation of "Aurora Borealis Stratospheric Interceptors" or something along those lines. There are apparently two different engines. A scram jet to reach exit velocity and enter orbit, and more typical jets for initial take off/landing and orbital maneuvers.
Never really believed or disbelieved it to any greater degree, just thought, "Yeah, I could totally see that. Seems like a missed leap in aviation no one ever took." Scram jets get up to near orbital velocity in the atmosphere and can work up to 75-100 km. So rockets probably are just a grand misdirection of official spaceflight.
Perhaps admitting it isn't up for debate until it's no longer a global military advantage.
So if Im following correctly like space plane tech on steroids.... if thats the reality and Im certainly open to the possibility, then the American MIC is underselling our technological advantages. While it's possible Russia and or China would play coy too, it is hard to imagine them having such capabilities and US intelligence not being aware of it #1 and #2 it wouldn't seem like either Russia or China is exploiting the tech. Unless they are using the spy balloon as cover for their space plane programs.
Quote:https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1856773415983820802
Quote:Michael Shellenberger
@shellenberger
IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION - Report on the US government’s secret UAP (UFO) program
From a whistleblower and released today by
@NancyMace
and discussed in today’s Congressional hearing
FULL REPORT
