(09-17-2024, 10:11 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote:

(09-17-2024, 10:11 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: Yeah, but as I noted, no way would it be a Dragunov (SVD).  You'd have to be crazy to switch out the stock on one of those!  Even a copy is worth $10k, and the furniture on one of those things is absolutely beautiful.  Plus, you can tell from the mag that it's the wrong caliber.  An Dragunov is chambered in 7.62 x 54mmR which was the original cartridge for the Mosin-Nagant dating clear back to the 1800's.  You can see in the picture that the mag isn't long enough for a 54mm cartridge, and it's too curved for that cartridge also.  Plus the mags on the Dragunov were 10 round box mags.

On a personal note, I'd give my eye teeth for a genuine Dragunov!  I'd love to own one of those things!  I've got rifles which will shoot much further and way more accurately, but just the "Cool Factor" alone makes me want one.  "Coolness" just drips off one of those things!

Yeah, but as I noted, no way would it be a Dragunov (SVD).  You'd have to be crazy to switch out the stock on one of those!  Even a copy is worth $10k, and the furniture on one of those things is absolutely beautiful.  Plus, you can tell from the mag that it's the wrong caliber.  An Dragunov is chambered in 7.62 x 54mmR which was the original cartridge for the Mosin-Nagant dating clear back to the 1800's.  You can see in the picture that the mag isn't long enough for a 54mm cartridge, and it's too curved for that cartridge also.  Plus the mags on the Dragunov were 10 round box mags.

On a personal note, I'd give my eye teeth for a genuine Dragunov!  I'd love to own one of those things!  I've got rifles which will shoot much further and way more accurately, but just the "Cool Factor" alone makes me want one.  "Coolness" just drips off one of those things!

(09-17-2024, 10:56 AM)guyfriday Wrote: If the SVD was a hot rifle, as in reported as stolen) then I can see a dimwit swapping out the stock for an aftermarket hunting rifle styled stock. As for the magazine, why have that many rounds if he was only going to shoot Trump. I mean he should have known a shoot-out with the Feds and Local Police wasn't going to happen, he'd be killed. 

Since Florida has the rifle right now, I hope they use that technique to pull up the filed off numbers and see where the rifle came from.

Quote:The tree line at the Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach, Florida, has been known for years to be a vantage point for photographers looking to catch a candid glimpse of the former president and other VIPs.
Still, suspected failed assassin Ryan Wesley Routh was able to camp out there for nearly 12 hours Sunday with a rifle aimed at the course, according to a federal affidavit. He even brought snacks.

 
Trump is known to frequent the course when staying at his Mar-a-Lago resort about 15 minutes away. And even though the visit wasn't on the president's schedule, anyone staking out the area could have been tipped off to his arrival by his motorcade.
 
"There have been previous individuals who have taken pictures of the former president while he's golfing," said Dave Aronberg, the state attorney for the 15th Judicial Circuit, which covers Palm Beach County. "They've gone through the shrubs and been able to poke a camera through the fencing. You would think that perhaps maybe they would consider someone scoping the perimeter."
 
Photographers routinely announce their presence to the Secret Service and are well versed in where they can get a good line of sight, the New York Post reported. They are rarely asked to leave, an unnamed photo agency source told the paper.

(09-17-2024, 09:20 PM)opethNJ Wrote: Sure it could be some Jack Bauer 24'esque type conspiracy where the Deep State is trying to get Trump killed. Nothing would surprise me with the candidates that the 2 parties have offered the country over the past 2 and upcoming terms. 

Then again the real world has a boring way of getting involved in scenarios .

Failed Trump assassin's vantage point was no secret – paparazzi have staked out tree line for years

(09-17-2024, 09:42 PM)guyfriday Wrote: Which kind of begs the question of why no one else saw the assassin there? If those Paparazzi have been known to use it, and Trump right now is a very hot topic, then are you telling me that not a single Paparazzi was trying to take a picture there? I wonder if any Paparazzi were chased off by Feds so that the assassin wouldn't be disturbed.

Quote:The alleged gunman accused of trying to assassinate Donald Trump at his Florida golf course had 11 rounds loaded in his assault rifle, federal prosecutors said Monday — as they revealed the first close-up photo of the weapon.
 
The image of the Soviet-designed SKS rifle that was found stashed in Ryan Wesley Routh’s alleged sniper’s nest at the West Palm Beach golf course on Sept. 15 was included in a detention memo filed Monday.
 
The rifle has been modified with a detachable magazine, a modern stock and a scope to make it more accurate to shoot at long range.
 
The serial number on the rifle was “obliterated and unreadable,” prosecutors alleged.
 
Routh’s fingerprint was also allegedly found on the weapon, the court papers state.

(09-23-2024, 11:42 AM)guyfriday Wrote:  Routh was offering 150,000 to anyone who completed what he was doing. Has this money been frozen yet, or is it still out there for others to try and grab? I mean with this cash rumored to be out there it's almost a certainty that others are going to try and assassinate Trump just for the money, not just because of politics.