(08-13-2024, 05:04 PM)schuyler Wrote: IMO this entire thread is a red herring. It doesn't matter except to people who enjoy having cows about meaningless issues. Is that a mixed metaphor? Well, who cares, which is what I think about the whole thing. Who cares if Grusch was an alcoholic? Who cares if Grusch was diagnosed with PTSD? Isn't everbody? It seems to be the disease du juor. Who cares if Trump is a convicted felon? So was Jesus. It gives new meaning to the phrase "trumped up charges." The point is that these sorts of complaints are used to "discredit" someone whom the opposition feels needs to be discredited. Frankly, I do not think this sort of tactic works except to deflect the energy of the conversation into dead ends. 

The pertinent issue involves the credibility of Grusch. Is what he says true and relevant, or is he another Steven Greer with his excessive baggage? I say he IS credible, but that the result of his relevations has not had quite the explosive impact many had wished for. And that's not necessarilly his fault. I think we ought to have a discussion on what constitutes smoking gun proof, but I suspect some people would not accept that, no matter what it is or how it is presented. And that is a problem.

(08-12-2024, 02:57 PM)ArMaP Wrote: Sorry, I didn't see any clear answer to point 1.
Regarding point 2, as I don't know the US or Virginia's judicial system I suppose I will have to wait to see any further developments.

It depends on the subject, and I am as entitled to an opinion as he is.


I question everything.


Sorry, it wasn't clear to me.


In that article they say:

But, when looking at section 37.2-818 of the Code of Virginia, we see that the records it talks about are the court records, not the police report that lead to the involuntary admission.

As I'm not a lawyer and, as said above, do not know the US or Virginia's judicial system, my interpretation of the legislation may not be correct.


Your welcome.
Sorry for any misunderstanding, sometimes I have a hard time understanding what people mean.

(08-14-2024, 12:43 PM)Waterglass Wrote: Well Alex my room mate as we were a in four person dorm would always say:  

putsh fudiei ? 

(08-11-2024, 08:28 AM)Waterglass Wrote: Gee Karl and I thought you were above that type of front porch logic.

Quote:26:00

"When you look at how everything has unfolded, from the players involved and from the demand of a report I fear that the report itself will also have a parallel connection"

John Greenewald Junior

(08-14-2024, 07:26 PM)Karl12 Wrote: Apologies for the emotions mate (one does get frustrated lol) - was all over this for the first few years and it's more and more looking like one big Psy-Op.

Would truly love to be wrong but all the usual suspects have been constantly involved backstage and distinct parallels to other UFO perception management ops look glaringly apparent.

There's also the insanely important aspect of official UFO information release and (objectively speaking) all this mainstream 'theatre' bullshit has actually achieved is a major lockdown of information , the FOIA is now also heavily compromised with a litany of new rules.. almost as if all this was one of the primary objectives in the first place.

(08-16-2024, 01:39 PM)Karl12 Wrote: Yes mate would say Greenewald is a good chap and excellent researcher - also thought he made some astute observations in the short vid below about 'muddying the waters' and the 'astronomical counter-intelligence value' of all these UAP shenanigans.




[Video: https://youtu.be/ygoJw0Mgeog]