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RE: Trump shot? - KKLoco - 07-22-2024

Here’s a view from the window where the third counter sniper team was located. They had a direct line of site less than 70 feet away. This was allowed to happen.

https://x.com/IntelCrab/status/1815470974780985521

Also came out in the hearing that they have no recordings of communications on the day of the shooting. How convenient.


RE: Trump shot? - ArMaP - 07-22-2024

(07-22-2024, 03:15 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Here’s a view from the window where the third counter sniper team was located. They had a direct line of site less than 70 feet away. This was allowed to happen.

Third counter sniper team? That is new to me.

Is that the open window from where a second possible assassin was suppose to have fired some shots?


RE: Trump shot? - KKLoco - 07-22-2024

(07-22-2024, 04:31 PM)ArMaP Wrote: Third counter sniper team? That is new to me.

Is that the open window from where a second possible assassin was suppose to have fired some shots?

Yes, same open window.

When Cheatle was asked if Crooks was a lone gunman, she said ‘I can’t answer that’. Apparently, most of congress is now convinced there were more than one.


RE: Trump shot? - DontTreadOnMe - 07-22-2024

Not sure if this has been covered, but it is about Sen Grassley's probe into the agents on duty on July 13.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/07/21/grassley_letter_to_secret_service_director_highlights_major_security_lapses.html#2
Quote:Another factor, according to these sources within the Secret Service community, was that the agency was relying heavily on supplemental special agents (not Trump’s regular team of special agents) and local law enforcement because many special agents in Trump’s regular protective detail were overburdened and needed to take time off after working several consecutive seven-day weeks.

RCP has also learned that there may have been only one regular special agent detailee on site the day of the rally. The rest are from the Candidate Nominee Operation Section, or CNOS, “temps” in Secret Service shorthand. First instituted in 1998, the CNOS teams comprise special agents from 142 field offices and operate on 21-day rotational assignments. When they complete their rotations, they return to their field offices.

This is not unusual for a former president to experience, but the threats against Trump, the only former president in modern political history to run again and one who has faced prosecutions and comparisons to Hitler from Democrats, are obviously greater than most ex-commanders in chief whose profiles have tended to decline after leaving public office.



RE: Trump shot? - boredhere74 - 07-22-2024

(07-22-2024, 04:52 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Yes, same open window.

When Cheatle was asked if Crooks was a lone gunman, she said ‘I can’t answer that’. Apparently, most of congress is now convinced there were more than one.

To be fair she hardly answered anything. So a 3rd counter sniper team at the window they think a 2nd shooter was? Umm maybe just me but doesn't that mean they were all there at the same time? Or am I missing something here? And which of he multiple groups was this one comprised of?


RE: Trump shot? - Maxmars - 07-22-2024

I think it's pretty clear that whatever happened, it's being obscured.  The endless 'insertion' of new and contradictory information is purposeful, and I fear, orchestrated.  Assuming the hypothetical 'plan' surrounding the assassination attempt (i.e., the "lone gunman" theory is bunk) is valid, then intent to obfuscate can only have a few motivations: Frist, that the failure to earnestly secure the candidate was so egregious as to border on what some might call "criminal," or second, that the 'powers that be' are so clueless as to not want to expose their abject ignorance.  I am discounting that the Secret Service, FBI, or any other 'law' agency, could conduct an assassination on their own, independently... that would change things up... in a very bad way (it would mean the metaphorical 'mafia' has completely taken over.)

But really, I never expected the political 'show' to come up with answers... only 'political performance art.'  The questioning was angry and relatively pointless... as if she was going to admit to any wrongdoing on national television.  Regardless of what her antagonists come up with, the pardon is likely already being drafted.

I think this is so, because as of a few years ago, the manning of the political appointee positions in this country were 'orchestrated' to subtly change how 'law' is applied.  Simultaneously, the media embarked on a campaign (either of their own design or someone else's) to vilify former President Trump (and all those associated as 'supporters') so thoroughly, with such relentless rapidity, as to render him/them into the very image of a poster child for all their hateful imaginings and quite often, ranting.  This might mean that even those who are entrusted to secure their persons are probably of a bent perception... and they are likely 'glorified' by any disdain for the 'orange man'.

But in the end, what was witnessed, experienced, and recorded cannot be erased from the public... so the next best thing, for them, would be to openly vilify any questions about the event, the same way they vilified talk of COVID discrepancies online... (it usually starts with the mainstream media ranting about "disinformation." - watch for it.)

More potential places to shoot from?  Suddenly, despite recording evidence the sound of gunfire is 'ambiguous?'  There are too many people out there who openly celebrated the attempt, and loudly lamented that he lived.  This is a bad sign.  The 20 year-old shooter was now a criminal mastermind?  The Secret Service, too overworked and badly managed to do one of the most important security functions ever... really?  Finger pointing at the leadership of the unit is going to "solve" the case?

Granted, we here suffer from a vacuum of certifiable facts, but even so, can it really be that the people who are "the best" at solving crime are so hopelessly confused that they are going to throw there hands up and give up?  All the establishment can do is muddy the water... and they have already begun in earnest.


RE: Trump shot? - Lysergic - 07-23-2024

I think they wanted both to die, Trump and Biden and the next agenda would unfold but it seems they going w plan b now.

But there DEI at all levels, so its kinda midwit IQ level of expertise. 

wtg ladies.


RE: Trump shot? - Notran - 07-23-2024

(07-13-2024, 08:37 PM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: As much as I dislike the man, Trump just WON the '24/'25 Election!

The democrats are completely UNHINGED!!  They've LOST IT!!

It was very unlikely not to say impossible that Biden could manage to win this one. Now he is out of the race but an assassination attempt makes it even more probable for Trump to win. I wonder why voters had to choose between these two and I say don't bite for them. Trump's history and politics speak for themselves. It's like a failed project resurrected.

(07-22-2024, 11:09 PM)Maxmars Wrote: I think it's pretty clear that whatever happened, it's being obscured.  The endless 'insertion' of new and contradictory information is purposeful, and I fear, orchestrated.  Assuming the hypothetical 'plan' surrounding the assassination attempt (i.e., the "lone gunman" theory is bunk) is valid, then intent to obfuscate can only have a few motivations: Frist, that the failure to earnestly secure the candidate was so egregious as to border on what some might call "criminal," or second, that the 'powers that be' are so clueless as to not want to expose their abject ignorance.  I am discounting that the Secret Service, FBI, or any other 'law' agency, could conduct an assassination on their own, independently... that would change things up... in a very bad way (it would mean the metaphorical 'mafia' has completely taken over.)

But really, I never expected the political 'show' to come up with answers... only 'political performance art.'  The questioning was angry and relatively pointless... as if she was going to admit to any wrongdoing on national television.  Regardless of what her antagonists come up with, the pardon is likely already being drafted.

I think this is so, because as of a few years ago, the manning of the political appointee positions in this country were 'orchestrated' to subtly change how 'law' is applied.  Simultaneously, the media embarked on a campaign (either of their own design or someone else's) to vilify former President Trump (and all those associated as 'supporters') so thoroughly, with such relentless rapidity, as to render him/them into the very image of a poster child for all their hateful imaginings and quite often, ranting.  This might mean that even those who are entrusted to secure their persons are probably of a bent perception... and they are likely 'glorified' by any disdain for the 'orange man'.

But in the end, what was witnessed, experienced, and recorded cannot be erased from the public... so the next best thing, for them, would be to openly vilify any questions about the event, the same way they vilified talk of COVID discrepancies online... (it usually starts with the mainstream media ranting about "disinformation." - watch for it.)

More potential places to shoot from?  Suddenly, despite recording evidence the sound of gunfire is 'ambiguous?'  There are too many people out there who openly celebrated the attempt, and loudly lamented that he lived.  This is a bad sign.  The 20 year-old shooter was now a criminal mastermind?  The Secret Service, too overworked and badly managed to do one of the most important security functions ever... really?  Finger pointing at the leadership of the unit is going to "solve" the case?

Granted, we here suffer from a vacuum of certifiable facts, but even so, can it really be that the people who are "the best" at solving crime are so hopelessly confused that they are going to throw there hands up and give up?  All the establishment can do is muddy the water... and they have already begun in earnest.

I don't want to sound conspiratorial and I agree with you there could be more to this. The lone gunman scenario is questioned a lot. You won't see it on the mainstream but everywhere else there is talk about the motives of the shooter end whether he acted on his own. They try to find a motive but they can't. Not many things add up in this story.


RE: Trump shot? - Maxmars - 07-23-2024

The director of the Secret Service has resigned.

Answers will no longer be forthcoming.


RE: Trump shot? - KKLoco - 07-23-2024

(07-22-2024, 09:44 PM)boredhere74 Wrote: To be fair she hardly answered anything. So a 3rd counter sniper team at the window they think a 2nd shooter was? Umm maybe just me but doesn't that mean they were all there at the same time? Or am I missing something here? And which of he multiple groups was this one comprised of?

Why does the media keep showing where Crroks was at being on the other side of the roof, close to 70 feet away from where he really was? Which so happens to be right under that window. THIS is why the FBI washed off the blood (not their job). They want to change the narrative. 

Supposedly, their was a sniper on the roof, but it was too hot (boohoo), so he went inside to that room. With all the deflecting and lies going on - I’d put money on THAT sniper in that second floor room, as the person that got most the shots off. 

REMEMBER: This is an FBI investigation. We know they don’t play by the rules — and what side they are on.

Here is an example of what I’m talking about. These pics are everywhere.

Right under the window. But we all know he was on the other side of the roof. Far from what this shows:

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