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RE: Non-Human Intelligence (The Melting Pot) - jaded - 05-29-2024
It's always bugged me, the default idea of higher or lower dimensions. Dimensions different than our's maybe, or we're all sharing this one with beings beyond our biological senses.
Currently since the Great UAP Kerfuffle scientists have taken a "leftie" and the lot of them are running to study Consiousness. It's almost as "if" trying to figure out the new-to-us rules of physicality got too hard, so Hey! Our Consiousness must be involved.
Or the NHI's Consiousness? Or, or, or...
Beings from another dimension.
That's just a whole lot of stringing unknowns together.
(Correction;to cite source material)
We have the Scole Experiments information thanks to Project Doorway's Steve Mera & Barry Fitzgerald. We know Russell Targ & Putoff were involved in the same kind of experiments here at either Livermore or Sandia. Both groups stopped after getting the run around by "something" that could both manifest physically with the researchers and non-physically, demonstrated "It" was intelligent and ultimately wouldn't answer a straight question.
Fun was had by all!! :)
However a lot was experienced by the researchers in as scientifically rigid format as could be assembled. It's just it didn't result in a final diffinative answer.
We also have time dilation being demonstrated, residual radioactive sign, residual marks that can be seen under black light. The last two measured but it was discovered both fade quickly after 72 hrs. Even with all the discoverables we do have , it's still too early to jump the gun an say we have a 100% conclusion.
Also edited to add; had originally posted Steve Mera's YT on the "Mechanic's of Metaphysics" over on the other site. Per normal nobody cared, but more troubling is it "seems" to have been removed since then by Mr. Mera. Given that he also "seems" to now have a arrangement with Zohar I'm surmising it was a business decision, nothing more.
Strangely it's become obvious that UK Researchers are making great strides while here in the US we're still puddle-ducking along hanging on to theories already blown out of the water. One of which was discovering when a coffee mug was disappeared, Mr. Mera's group sent it and another (purchased as a set by the owner) to be analyzed. The finding's were it was changed at the molecular level. People who vanish either die soon after returning or vanish again. I'm betting the ones who died upon return, no one either thought to test plus in a lot of cases mass spectronomy wasn't available yet. To me this would mean dimension hopping is a misdirection as a answer.
RE: Non-Human Intelligence (The Melting Pot) - jaded - 06-03-2024
Well here ya go.
This pretty much sums up where research is with the NHI. Bear with the first part or just skip it. Steve Mera's already been questioned by the "Advanced Working Group" so altho I'm already convinced he & Barry Fitzgerald are miles ahead of anyone else, it was just another confirmation.
Obviously not everyone is going to like their findings. However I still have high hopes people will finally accept the data. Honestly I've had my own personal hiccups with it but we all have to grow up eventually. Since the US has decided to gatekeep much of this info I'm glad someone else isn't.
People want info, have a party.
RE: Non-Human Intelligence (The Melting Pot) - jaded - 06-03-2024
The second YT with Paul Sinclair @ 3:35 Steve Mera goes into his conversation with the Advanced Working Group.
RE: Non-Human Intelligence (The Melting Pot) - jaded - 06-16-2024
I'm sure most are familiar with Peter Leveda from TTSA or his many books delving into unraveling the darker side of US governmental history. Obviously I'm a little late to this portion of the party, so to speak, but it's interesting Levenda is also running with the NHI theory.
It was thought provoking in that one possibility is the govt by stalling & mishandling any form of disclosure is going to result in the population's decision we don't need govt period. It was also a little surprising Levenda asserted as far as the NHI or Phenomena hasn't a flipping clue, just data.
Has been my opinion for many years now that since the NHI already interacts with people individually, some learned, some haven't btw, do we really need the govt's input on it? Am also of the mind people make way too much drama out of it.
It's here, it's been here, we used to relegate dealings with it to Shamans/Elders ect but since we got rid of anyone who used to deal with it & it's now "one on one" ready or not? Why is it so difficult to treat it as anything else we are apt to run into? We know it can be anything, we know it's 100% deceptive unless it wants something, we know it like us also has limitations. We also know that it doesn't interact with everyone.
Lightening doesn't hit everyone either. Yay! for strength in numbers!
Without spoiling the whole interview the notion Levenda floated of "what if the NHI decides to use the internet to affect everyone instead of what it's currently doing?" That nasty little thought ranks right up there with AI going full sentient an deciding humanity's irrelevant.
Anyhoo's enjoy!
RE: Non-Human Intelligence (The Melting Pot) - jaded - 06-22-2024
I'm actually shocked this hasn't been posted yet. Harvard's Study that Aliens May Be Living Among us. It made news a couple of weeks ago that Cryptoterriestials are a possibility linked to the UAP also, possibly.
"Well Dorothy we've moved past the 5 deliverables, quantum mechanic's & time forging onward to the next new chapter of tossing spaghetti against a wall to see if anything sticks."
Human CryptoterrestrialsThe theory suggests that highly advanced ancient human civilisation may continue to exist even after some catastrophic events like floods.
Theropod or Hominid CryptoterrestrialsAnother theory states the possibility of a non-human society dwelling underground evolving from terrestrial creatures like intelligent dinosaurs or ape-like hominids.
Extratempestrial or Former Extraterrestrial CryptoterrestrialsThis theory claims that the aliens might have travelled from the moon or other places to visit the Earth and hidden themselves among us.
"Magical Cryptoterrestrials"These beings are like 'earthbound angels', having magical rather than technological relationships with humans, like folklore creatures like fairies and elves. The primary weakness of the theory is its perceived oddity, especially for those accustomed to conventional scientific explanations. The researchers admitted that their research was 'likely to be regarded as sceptically by most scientists,' but it urged the community to consider their claim "in a spirit of epistemic humility and openness." As per reports, the paper is yet to be peer-reviewed.
I really have no words, but immediately thought of Mick West an some other skeptics just absolutely having epic meltdowns. It's taken western culture 500+ years to come up with a "study" attempting to validate "knowns" in indigenous cultures in probably the most ludicrous manner possible.
https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/aliens-might-be-living-among-us-disguised-as-humans-claims-harvard-study-124061300696_1.html
RE: Non-Human Intelligence (The Melting Pot) - jaded - 06-25-2024
Well I googled cause Harvard study listing "magical Cryptoterestrials" irked me.
My deny ignorance training kicked in AFTER my fingers ran away with my brain. Turns out the "study" is a Thought Experiment, not any kind of Hard Science Type.
The post still stands since the Saga of Disclosure has flip-flopped so many times and in so many directions & misdirections this bit shouldn't be forgotten.
But yeah, I screwed up.
RE: Non-Human Intelligence (The Melting Pot) - Maxmars - 06-25-2024
Don't beat yourself up about it... the way this was published, I'm not surprised others haven't gone in the same direction.
I glanced at it and was going to come back. It seemed less than a fully fledged idea... but you never know.
Glad you scoured it further.
RE: Non-Human Intelligence (The Melting Pot) - jaded - 07-14-2024
Back to bringing the material.
This stuff isn't easy or fluffy however it IS another piece of the puzzle. Etymology or the study of words origins can clear up issues. It's not flashy, it's not easy but understanding everything about anything being said is important.
Pierre Sabak decided to do just that chasing back thru many languages and symbols used by many cultures to figure out exactly who's pulling humanities chain. His results give a very credible explaination of who the aliens are, or who we're at least calling the NHI, Reptilians, the illuminati, angels & more.
His thoughts on humans perceiving beings of light when we're being communicating with telepathically or by transference as a side affect of the communication dovetails with things Fitzgerald and Diana Pulsaka discovered. That bit is at the very begining of the interview.
This interview is based on a over 500pg book he wrote. He's not just some Johnny-come-lately spouting his take on aliens. Altho I don't think he's very well known.
RE: Non-Human Intelligence (The Melting Pot) - jaded - 07-19-2024
The NHI thread thru all this has admittedly required a LOT of peripheral learning. Lots that most people won't wade thru.
It's easier to stay in one's comfort zone of assumptions/beliefs than to dig into the notion we've been lied to about just so very much. Which when thats said doesn't mean we really had a choice about it, or that any one particular faction orchrestrated it.
Point being if you want to know everything this is going to be like making sausages.
My brain has exploded more than several times over new relevant info an I WAS LOOKING FOR INFORMATION! Not just randomly kinda wishing the phantom-nu-agey BS was truth. Or even just OK with whatever goofy ideas have been accepted as truth.
Today was another mind bender.
Remote Viewer Leonard (Lyn) Buchanan was abducted prior to his military service an in the interview dropped the reason he found via RV ET's put tiny devices in humans. NOPE they're not tracking us. He said what's put into us a a couple of cells from a disease the ET's are tring to cure cause humans are walking antibody factories. If humans would quit wiggling around the tip of the insertion device wouldn't break off...
There's more, but having a credible person speak about being asked by a ET "did you check for cell material?" is where I now need a tea-break.
Not because it's beyond crayzee but because "Nope, we never did look for that" just makes us humans look dumb. OK...paranoid and dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjkbDbcANAs
RE: Non-Human Intelligence (The Melting Pot) - midicon - 07-19-2024
(05-28-2024, 10:39 PM)pianopraze Wrote: Higher dimensions makes a lot of sense to me.
flatland is best tool to understand this I’ve come across.
imagine a flat world where there is no up or down. 2d. Like a sheet of paper. They can not see above or below the paper.
a 3d person standing outside of this world could touch and move in ways unintelligible to a person in the flat world. We could touch them from above and they could not see us only feel the touch.
or we could stick multiple fingers through the paper appearing to be multiple places at once or disappearing from one location and appearing at another instantaneously.
As we stick our hand through the paper what they see of us would change shapes, yet they could never truly see our true shape as most of us would not be in their 2d word but above and below it.
this is of course an analogy.
likewise the movement of higher dimensional craft in our 3d world makes no sense as it is moving in higher dimensions as well so our perception is limited and we cannot understand what we are seeing. They can appear in and out of our reality in ways that make no conventional sense as they are mostly in a higher dimension - only partially in ours.
they can affect us from higher dimensions without us being able to perceive them except where they are "touching" us.
it explains much that people are reporting.
I don't believe in aliens or the paranormal period.
The imaginary concept of ' Flatland ' is misleading and useless. It leads people to think they have an idea of something when in reality it is gobbledy gook.
