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RE: The Onion Buys Infowars - k0rn - 11-14-2024
https://theonion.com/heres-why-i-decided-to-buy-infowars/
I read this attempting to understand what the point of them buying infowars was but to no avail.
RE: The Onion Buys Infowars - Kwaka - 11-14-2024
That is the best laugh I have gotten for a while from the Onion.
With all the fraud and deception going on around this case, there are many layers to it. A sealed auction and the show is now shut down.
With Trump winning the election, good chance Alex will pop up somewhere.
https://alexjones.network
RE: The Onion Buys Infowars - UltraBudgie - 11-14-2024
oh thank goodness quality patriot merchandise is still available there is hope !
![[Image: TrashyAmericanHat_lifestyle.png]](https://thealexjonesstore.com/cdn/shop/files/TrashyAmericanHat_lifestyle.png)
https://thealexjonesstore.com/products/trashy-american-hat
https://alexjones.network/watch
at this point he is more funny than the onion can be as america is its own parody !
i think he pulled the server plug himself as soon as the domain sale news broke as he had everything all ready
he also is live now and actually looks healthier i think he's off the sauce
RE: The Onion Buys Infowars - k0rn - 11-15-2024
They are saying the Onion did not buy it and there will be another court thing next week
https://x.com/RealAlexJones
RE: The Onion Buys Infowars - Kwaka - 11-15-2024
(11-14-2024, 12:34 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: GOOD RIDDANCE. He may have earned getting canceled for making the world as paranoid and broken as him, the clock that was right twice.
So it is not about the victims and their compensation with a secret auction? That is a rhetorical question. Those that have been watching know.
So this is how you want to handle any questions of authority? This is not a rhetorical question. Will you still be like this if your turn of censorship comes? If he was a clueless idiot no one would watch him. When he is getting a better hit rate and viewership than many in the MSM, is that what scares you?
RE: The Onion Buys Infowars - Maxmars - 11-15-2024
Jones was the first "Joe Rogan"-like target of the MSM.
Before Rogan and "Ivermectin" there was Alex Jones and "elites."
MSM flexed every muscle, used every trick of leverage, every political 'agent' to try and demolish his presence and following.
They won.
But it was too little and too late.
The courts are still involved... meaning the lawyers aren't finished raking money from the side show.
I found it interesting that the Onion's lord and commander wrote a poorly considered piece about it which uses certain phrases that were very telling about their plans to purchase the website...
"...InfoWars has distinguished itself as an invaluable tool for brainwashing and controlling the masses..."
How telling... a) all Infowars fans are empty vessels waiting for programming... b) presumption that the MSM (of which the Onion is part) doesn't brainwash or control the masses...
"...InfoWars has shown an unswerving commitment to manufacturing anger and radicalizing the most vulnerable members of society..."
"a) Manufacturing anger? (You mean like showing the 9/11 towers collapsing over and over for weeks on end? b) "most vulnerable members of society?" like who?... internet users, people who seek information not politically 'canned' for entertainment?
"...Make no mistake: This is a coup for our company and a well-deserved victory for multinational elites the world over..."
Oh yes... a victory.... I don't know about how well 'deserved.'
Anyway...enough of the equivalent to Mad Magazine and National Lampoon as a 'significant player in entertainment journalism.'
RE: The Onion Buys Infowars - UltraBudgie - 11-15-2024
(11-15-2024, 10:01 AM)Maxmars Wrote: Jones was the first "Joe Rogan"-like target of the MSM.
Before Rogan and "Ivermectin" there was Alex Jones and "elites."
MSM flexed every muscle, used every trick of leverage, every political 'agent' to try and demolish his presence and following.
They won.
Yes. Alex Jones and Sandy Hook was the hill where free-speech absolutism went to die. They got us. It worked. No one had the heart to keep making the argument that Jones should be allowed to speculate, in the face of the narrative of suffering families and children killed in tragedy. I have seen video compilations of the so-called "crisis actors", and you know what, they're pretty compelling. It's not like it was an entirely baseless cynical cash grab exploitation to be curious, as Mr Jones was portrayed as perpetrating. But no one wanted to take that side. Understandably.
And it's where we saw that it wasn't a "slippery slope". It was a damn cliff. Once the ground was ceded that this was an unquestionably horrible thing, you couldn't go back and argue upon it without seeming like a monster. And once there was a single unquestionable basis for claiming Mr Jones as a monster, allegation upon allegation could be thrown at it and stuck upon that portrayal, turning him into a larger-than-life image, an icon of the projected enemy of proper, well-adjusted, truth-based America. He had to fall.
And with that fall came a pattern. He was the first, then others followed, in a new era of censorship. The idea that media should be censored in some way took hold as a result. Free-speech absolutism is now seen as dangerous, ridiculous. What an unlikely poster-boy Mr Jones became. He made a career of going over lines, often to an unlikeable extent even among his fans. He claimed he was the "tip of the spear", and perhaps so, because that's the bit that gets shattered. In some way he's getting what he wants, being the focus, and I can't really blame him for that. He's been very consistent.
RE: The Onion Buys Infowars - IdeomotorPrisoner - 11-15-2024
(11-15-2024, 03:44 AM)Kwaka Wrote: So it is not about the victims and their compensation with a secret auction? That is a rhetorical question. Those that have been watching know.
So this is how you want to handle any questions of authority? This is not a rhetorical question. Will you still be like this if your turn of censorship comes? If he was a clueless idiot no one would watch him. When he is getting a better hit rate and viewership than many in the MSM, is that what scares you?
We was fine with 9/11, FEMA, and all the conspiracies until he mocked grieving families and called them liars. If that was my hypothetical kid killed, I'd do everything in my power to shut him up because it's not free speech, it's pandering ratings/money driven public defamation.
He earned it picking a stupid paranoid line of argument and not letting it go.
All these inalienable rights things, are really privileges if you think about it. (See Felons) Privileges can be rescinded when you break the social contract of decency and law. And repeatedly do it. He continued to defame and slander homicide victims families because he got ratings with his unhinged insanity.
He was righteously profiting off calling these families unending tragedy a grand deep state lie. That's righteous and the spirit of free speech only in the land without a soul.
It's not a free speech issue. It's a jackass issue. One whose contribution and decision to lose his mind, and not back down when presented with reality, and continuously turn tragedy into a way to wind people up was the issue.
No one's stopping us from talking about what he said. It's not a crime, thought or otherwise to discuss someone else's crimes and ideas. Pretty much everything else he said you could podcast to 1 million people a day and NEVER encounter what happened to him.
I feel the devil on his shoulder set him up to get run over. He was puppeted by his impulse to not back down his baseless BS and use free speech as a cover for defamation. He fell into a martyrdom quest, waved his sword of right, and it was ultimately denied by the courts for being illegal and heartless lies.
RE: The Onion Buys Infowars - KKLoco - 11-15-2024
(11-15-2024, 12:23 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: It's not a free speech issue. It's a jackass issue. One whose contribution and decision to lose his mind, and not back down when presented with reality, and continuously turn tragedy into a way to wind people up was the issue.
No one's stopping us from talking about what he said. It's not a crime, thought or otherwise to discuss someone else's crimes and ideas. Pretty much everything else he said you could podcast to 1 million people a day and NEVER encounter what happened to him.
But it is a free speech issue. I’ve never been a fan of Alex. However, that doesn’t give anyone the right to censor him.
Who creates the rules on this topic? Who is policing those rules? That’s the problem with a situation like this. Once you say ‘NO, he shouldn’t be able to say that!’ — then you open the door for all your other freedoms to be trampled on. The precedent has been set. Now we get to deal with the consequences.
RE: The Onion Buys Infowars - IdeomotorPrisoner - 11-15-2024
(11-15-2024, 01:00 PM)KKLoco Wrote: But it is a free speech issue. I’ve never been a fan of Alex. However, that doesn’t give anyone the right to censor him.
Who creates the rules on this topic? Who is policing those rules? That’s the problem with a situation like this. Once you say ‘NO, he shouldn’t be able to say that!’ — then you open the door for all your other freedoms to be trampled on. The precedent has been set. Now we get to deal with the consequences.
You scratch the one time he lost his mind and he's still out there.
You can legally reboot the entire catalog of Infowars sans the Sandy Hook thing, create Not Infowars, and pick up right where he left off. It's just him and his assets for what he did on one issue. They want to ruin him for it.
No one stops Brand. No one stops Rogan. Musk. Coast To Coast, Fringe Conspiracy websites, or any of it.
I have always found it ironic how everyone gets to talk at length about the government censoring their free speech using Alex Jones as an example. When it's like top trending topic of free discussion at times.
I don't see it as free speech being eroded. They just killed his company because it crossed the line and started profiting off harmful slander that offended more than called out an anti gun agenda. It wasn't the spirit of free speech anymore.
It was like an insidious worm took over his brain and pushed him towards self-immolation. And they wanted to end him once he started making revenue slandering the tears of dozens of families and all those affected.
I think it gets unfairly turned into a martyrdom of free speech when it was more the time he crossed the line and probably should have let it go.
Everything else he said is still in play for anyone that didn't use their pulpit and get their privilege rescinded for slander and defamation... officially.
ETA:
Unofficially it was a technicality. The one "they" could finally get him on legally. He lied and assumed his way to two multimillion dollar media properties worth around 400 million. He no doubt pissed off people with influence.
It shows free speech is alive and well because THEY HAD TO WAIT FOR SANDY HOOK to take it all away. The law was protecting him until that. It goes without saying he'd have haters but even they had to wait for him to give them a legal avenue AROUND his free speech.
