(10-07-2024, 03:45 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: yagh zooks here get all the 'memberberries out your system
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(10-07-2024, 06:39 PM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: Isn't  that great???  That many years ago we thougth 32k RAM was awesome.  Today, we bitch about anything less than 32mb of RAM.  I have (3) laptops, and (2) of them have 32 mb of RAM.  Those were cool back "in the day" but now we have hyper-threading, over-clocking and multiple process "cores" which renders just raw RAM almost obsolete.  Used to be people measured PC chips on processor chip clock speed...now it's a whole different equation.  Raw clock speed means almost nothing now.

How far we've come.

(10-07-2024, 06:39 PM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: ...

(10-07-2024, 08:26 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: It's amazing. I remember, in the 80s, holding a 360KB floppy disk in my hand and thinking: wow, everything I've written, everything I've typed is here, in the palm of my hand.  Everything computery, that is, and for a young me that was pretty much everything. I was one of those kids. Proto-nerd.

And it wasn't much longer before I learned Moore's Law. That computer power and storage capacity double, quickly. Over and over again. Every few years. It wasn't much longer before I got my first hard drive. 20MB. Hundreds of floppy disks of storage! Wow!

Oh, that was so many years ago. Kilo, mega. Giga! Just a decade later, storage was being measured using words I didn't even know, back then.

Fast-forward to today. This summer, I've been organizing my data archives. I'm a bit of a packrat, data-wise. I've kept most everything. Rebuild computer to read old ESDI drives and DAT tapes. Data-recovered all those old floppies. Digitized CDs.

Just last week, I managed to consolidate it all down to less than 24TB.  That's more than 50 million times as much data as was on that little 360KB, 5.25" floppy disk.

And you know what? It still all fits on a drive I can hold in the palm of my hand!

• In the 70's most computers were mainframes accessed through a remote 'dumb' terminal.  This mainframe was housed in a centralized massive Data Centers.
  
• In the 80's the 'Personal Computer' (PC) was all the rage.  No more mainframe connection required.
  
• In the 90's PC's became far more powerful than the original mainframes.
  
• In the 2000's, managing and patching PC's in a corporate environment led to applications being hosted on servers in a Data Center, not the desktop.  Vulnerabilities were being exploited regularly (i.e. hacking for profit).  Physical servers were now being located in leased space in Data Centers owned by others (co-location).
  
• In the 2010's applications and desktops became virtualized and were consolidated back into Data Centers.  Classical servers and storage and networking were converged into consolidated high-density environments like V-Sphere.  Now multiple entities were using the same hardware, just leasing pieces of it.
  
• In the 2020's applications are rarely resident on a desktop, and much of people's personal computing is done in "the cloud".  All of this is consolidated into...you guessed it...very "mainframe"-like environments located in massive Data Centers. 
  

(10-08-2024, 02:18 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: The very problem the PC was aimed at solving, independence from Big Brother, is now right back to where it started, only worse now, under the control of fewer and fewer autonomous owner-operators.

(10-08-2024, 02:59 PM)CCoburn Wrote: I think for me it would have been around 1989, and I recall buying from IBM. If I remember right, the processor choices were DX2/DX4.