(07-13-2024, 11:35 PM)rickymouse Wrote: twenty five to forty years ago I used to be able to get my shots in about a twelve inch pattern on a target at three hundred yards using my dads thirty thirty winchester with open sites.  That would after I practiced about five shots to figure the drop that occurs.  I grew up with that gun and always tried to get as good as my dad was before he died.  He was a Rifleman in WW11, his job was a sniper in the military.

Now, I can't even see the circles on the target at three hundred yards if I go down to the gun club across the street.  That is life.  It's crappy what happens to your eyes when you get old...er.  Too much screentime I think, the LED monitor is effecting my eyesight a lot.

(07-14-2024, 12:08 AM)Maxmars Wrote: Well, someone has to say it...

I have already heard from the rabid political opposition planting the seed of a notion that this was a 'staged' event... that this was possibly an attempt to give Trump an advantage in the upcoming election.

I rolled my eyes... and explained that this thing they were discussing was the stuff of paranoid politics they so often accuse others of doing...  (lost some 'friends' there)... The topic of "Q" and "Q-Anon" (whatever the hell they imagine that is) came up... And I was immediately thrust back into my mental corner where I always maintain that too many people are too much for their party, and too much "against" the opposition, rather than "for the country."

I am listening to ongoing audio news about this... and the topic of conspiracy is already broached... but they seem to be subject to real time 'direction'... returning to the minutiae of the crime scene specifics... which they have no confirmation about...  lot's of focus on the weapon (of course) (as if that 'speaks' of the criminal.)

By the way... it appears to be impossible to escape media bias even when the bias is superfluous... it's kind of sad.

(07-13-2024, 10:07 PM)727Sky Wrote: Head shot from over 200+ yards unless trained/practiced/windage favorable to do so is not something I would think your normal idiot would accomplish with any consistency.

(07-14-2024, 08:11 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: NYT has a photo of the actual bullet.

bullet captured on high speed camera

Anyone who says this was some kind of a false flag event not only needs to have their head examined, they also need to be investigated.

(07-14-2024, 08:23 AM)StevieRay Wrote: You need to go to DU. Disgusting bunch over there . Full of “oh why didn’t he die ?” and “totally staged by Trump”.
What happened to the original shooter ? Fat Antifa guy with a mustache. Did the fbi-cia-DOJ put out the wrong pre-approved patsy ? Internet and media are totally scrubbed of him now.

(07-14-2024, 08:23 AM)StevieRay Wrote: Speaking of which, isn’t it nice that ats allows blatant gutter trash garbage in the thread about this, replete with imploring people to flame her, to get the classic expulsion scam on anybody who replies. You want to know what they’re about now ? That’s it right there.

(07-14-2024, 08:11 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: NYT has a photo of the actual bullet.

bullet captured on high speed camera

(07-14-2024, 08:11 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: NYT has a photo of the actual bullet.

bullet captured on high speed camera

Anyone who says this was some kind of a false flag event not only needs to have their head examined, they also need to be investigated.

(07-14-2024, 09:03 AM)ArMaP Wrote: The funny thing about that photo is that they say that a bullet fired by an AR-15-style rifle would "travel approximately four-tenths of a foot while the shutter is open", as the photo shows a much longer distance, approximately one foot, so it would have to be travelling much faster than the 3,200 feet per second they mention.

(07-14-2024, 09:30 AM)Nerb Wrote: The trajectory of the blurred bullet in the shot would take it much lower than through the top of his ear. imho.