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RE: Trump shot? - TheRedneck - 07-17-2024
(07-17-2024, 10:41 AM)KKLoco Wrote: Finally got a better pic of the ladder. It is not fixed to the building. It’s a 12 foot step ladder. I thought it looked like it widened at the end in the other photos.
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/LE9xknJ.png]
Ummm... wow... that is tailor-made for undetected access to that roof! With those trees in the way, no one could have seen him climb up unless they happened to be looking directly into the alcove and standing to the left of the trees! That was specifically planned... that does NOT happen by accident or oversight!
More in another post... I'm trying to catch up.
TheRedneck
RE: Trump shot? - KKLoco - 07-17-2024
This is all we got. Seems real cooperative considering his son just tried to assassinate the former and future president.
![[Image: AY5eyvS.jpeg]](https://i.imgur.com/AY5eyvS.jpeg)
![[Image: AZOnnUQ.jpeg]](https://i.imgur.com/AZOnnUQ.jpeg)
(07-17-2024, 01:18 PM)TheRedneck Wrote: [Image: https://i.imgur.com/LE9xknJ.png]
Ummm... wow... that is tailor-made for undetected access to that roof! With those trees in the way, no one could have seen him climb up unless they happened to be looking directly into the alcove and standing to the left of the trees! That was specifically planned... that does NOT happen by accident or oversight!
More in another post... I'm trying to catch up.
TheRedneck
Yeah, but the MSM is reporting he got on the roof by scaling an AC unit. NOTHING is making any sense, whatsoever!
RE: Trump shot? - Waterglass - 07-17-2024
(07-17-2024, 01:16 PM)ArMaP Wrote: Why do we need to know anything about his parents? Those doing the investigation need, armchair investigators do not.
Reported by whom?
Fox News
Secret Service continues to face questions as FBI investigates Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks
The U.S. Secret Service was "solely responsible" for the security plan at former President Trump's Pennsylvania rally, Director Kimberly Cheatle said...
.LIVE24 minutes ago
Daily Mail
Thomas Crooks' parents 'called the cops on the day of the Trump rally shooting'
The parents of Donald Trump's would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks called the cops to say he was missing before the shooting,...
.4 hours ago
Agenzia Nova
USA, the parents of Trump's attacker called the police before the rally
USA, the parents of Trump's attacker called the police before the rally Read all the latest news on Agenzia Nova.
.2 hours ago
CBS News
Live Updates: Trump rally shooting investigation continues as new details emerge about assassination attempt
The U.S. Secret Service is facing mounting questions about the security flaws that allowed the shooter to fire from a rooftop near the...
RE: Trump shot? - KKLoco - 07-17-2024
(07-17-2024, 01:16 PM)ArMaP Wrote: Why do we need to know anything about his parents? Those doing the investigation need, armchair investigators do not.
Reported by whom?
He lived at home. I’d like to know who raised and groomed a presidential assassin. Additionally, us ‘armchair investigators’ seem to be doing a better job than the officials in charge of it. The idiot Cheatle tried to tell us a counter sniper wasn’t on the roof because the pitch was too steep. When we know for a fact that the roof that the counter snipers WERE on, had a much steeper pitch. Bitch needs to resign yesterday.
The MSM is reporting that his parents called the cops Saturday before the rally.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-shooters-parents-called-police-hours-before-assassination-attempt
RE: Trump shot? - Waterglass - 07-17-2024
(07-17-2024, 01:33 PM)KKLoco Wrote: He lived at home. I’d like to know who raised and groomed a presidential assassin. Additionally, us ‘armchair investigators’ seem to be doing a better job than the officials in charge of it. The idiot Cheatle tried to tell us a counter sniper wasn’t on the roof because the pitch was too steep. When we know for a fact that the roof that the counter snipers WERE on, had a much steeper pitch. Bitch needs to resign yesterday.
The MSM is reporting that his parents called the cops Saturday before the rally.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-shooters-parents-called-police-hours-before-assassination-attempt
"Bitch needs to resign yesterday"
She cant as shes owned by Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.
RE: Trump shot? - Maxmars - 07-17-2024
It would seem imprudent to simply disregard the shooters' world and events leading up to the attempt. But that is the domain of investigators of the 'authorized' variety, and it is often quite prudent for the investigators to play their cards 'close to the chest' until such time as they are confident they fully understand everything leading up to the crime. This of course, bears an assumption that they want to find the truth, and not just crafting a "story they will tell."
On the other hand, it is not reasonable to believe that the remainder of society 'should' just sit quietly, waiting for spurious 'official' declarations... frankly, those declarations are most often "crafted" for political effect and public narrative purposes, not to adjudicate justice. Between ensconced "political" leanings, tightly-cloistered 'decision makers,' and the entertainment industries "productions," what we would call 'truth' is frequently 'lost,' or hopelessly obscured.
The key elements of this event are very much in question... and it is logical to begin with the shooter. Of course we are treated to the "lone gunman" theory right off the bat... because there's less to dig, less to question, and less to investigate... it's the least labor-intensive path to follow... And the idea that a 20-years old (practically a 'child') should become so impassioned as to find assassination a solution, might be a 'convenient' façade for the simplistic narratives that usually accompany these tragic matters.
If the idea is to understand, less information is not better. Rather than say "enough" of that story because we want it behind us, perhaps we should ask "why less information?"... "how does 'not' knowing help us understand more fully?"... "why shouldn't what we want to know be a part of the dialogue?"...
RE: Trump shot? - KKLoco - 07-17-2024
(07-17-2024, 01:39 PM)Waterglass Wrote: "Bitch needs to resign yesterday"
She cant as shes owned by Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas.
And he should have resigned years ago for how he’s handled the border. Trump is going to have A LOT of firing to do come January.
RE: Trump shot? - Waterglass - 07-17-2024
(07-17-2024, 01:41 PM)KKLoco Wrote: And he should have resigned years ago for how he’s handled the border. Trump is going to have A LOT of firing to do come January.
Agree but it goes deep, assumming he gets that far.
RE: Trump shot? - ArMaP - 07-17-2024
(07-17-2024, 01:33 PM)KKLoco Wrote: He lived at home. I’d like to know who raised and groomed a presidential assassin.
You would like to know, you don't need to know.
Quote:The MSM is reporting that his parents called the cops Saturday before the rally.
Apparently, "a source" said it.
RE: Trump shot? - Waterglass - 07-17-2024
(07-17-2024, 12:50 PM)Blaine91555 Wrote: IMO the only thing anyone needs to know about Crooks is that he was a loner and he was heavily bullied in school. Now where have we heard that before? The rest is just pearl clutching.
The only person at fault here is Crooks.
Here's some more juice on him. He has an AAS degree
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gw58wv4e9o
Who was Thomas Matthew Crooks?
Thomas Crooks had not been carrying ID, so investigators used DNA and facial recognition technology to identify him, the FBI said.
He was from Bethel Park in Pennsylvania, about 70km (43 miles) from the site of the attempted assassination, and graduated in 2022 from Bethel Park High School with a $500 (£385) prize for maths and science, according to a local newspaper.
Crooks worked in a local nursing home kitchen just a short drive away from his home, where staff members have said that he passed a background check and raised no concerns.
The Community College of Allegheny, or CCAC, has confirmed that Crooks attended the school between September 2021 and May 2024. He graduated with an associate degree in engineering science.
In a statement sent to the BBC, the college noted that he graduated "with high honours" and that a review of his records turned up no disciplinary, student conduct or security-related incidents.
The University of Pittsburgh also told the BBC that in February he was accepted as a transfer student there for the fall 2024 semester. The following month, he elected not to attend.
State voter records show that he was a registered Republican, according to US media.
He also donated $15 to liberal campaign group ActBlue in 2021, according to an election donation filing and news reports.
He had a membership at a local shooting club, the Clairton Sportsmen's Club, for at least a year, the club confirmed to the BBC.
The vast club is based south of Pittsburgh and is “one of the premier shooting facilities in the tri-state area” of Pennsylvania, Ohio and West Virginia. It has more than 2,000 members.
It has multiple gun ranges, including a high-power rifle facility with targets up to 171 metres away.
The club's owner, Bill Sellitto, told the BBC that the shooting was a "terrible, terrible thing". Access to the club is tightly controlled, with only members allowed inside the sprawling facility.
“Obviously, the club fully admonishes the senseless act of violence,” attorney Robert S Bootay III, who represents the organisation, told the BBC.
Law enforcement officials believe the weapon used to shoot at Donald Trump, an AR-style rifle, was purchased by Crooks' father, according to investigators.
It is unclear how the weapon came into his son's hands, although there is no suggestion the father had any inkling of what was to take place.
Speaking on condition of anonymity, two officers told AP that Crooks' father bought the weapon at least six months ago.
Authorities say that Crooks purchased a box of ammunition containing 50 rounds on the day of the rally, reports CBS, the BBC's US news partner.
Police sources have also told CBS that he purchased a ladder at Home Depot before the shooting, although it is unclear if he brought it with him.
According to US media reports, Crooks was wearing a T-shirt from Demolition Ranch, a YouTube channel known for its guns and demolition content. The channel has millions of subscribers featuring videos on different guns and explosive devices.
The day after the shooting, law enforcement sources also told CBS that suspicious devices were found in Crooks' vehicle.
According to CBS, the suspect had a piece of commercially available equipment that appeared capable of initiating the devices.
Bomb technicians were called to the scene to secure and investigate the devices.
