(05-03-2024, 04:08 PM)Notran Wrote: Banning what? Protests?
It doesn't sound very democratic to me.
Slippery slope.

The deep state wants to take advantage what the 40% or 50% says every now and then for its purposes but remember that students have repeatedly defeated the deep state on numerous occasions.

(05-03-2024, 03:50 PM)Notran Wrote:  

(05-03-2024, 06:29 AM)Notran Wrote: There is some confusion of who is doing what but let me remind you it's not the students who are killing civilians at an alarming rate but the IDF in Gaza. US officials have admitted it already and I see you ignored my earlier post. John Kirby the White House Security Communications adviser said so a few days ago verifying that Israel is committing crimes against civilians. The number of dead civilians are on the tens of thousands and Israel is trying to hide the evidence but it's an impossible task.

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There is no overwhelming support for the killings of thousands of innocent civilians in Gaza, actually there is no support for this task anywhere in the world, the main reason Israel has been isolated from the rest of the world. The condemnations are a daily occurrence against the practice of mass killings in Gaza. I don't know how did you come up with the conclusion people support Israel. Nobody supports Israel when they are killing women and children.

The anti-war movement is very powerful and it doesn't include only students but students have the free will and moral obligation to protest against this massacre in Gaza. Likewise many more students and anti war protesters protest all over the world and demand and end and what is coming for the Israeli officials and military personnel , unless someone thinks they will get away with mass murder and ethnic cleansing.

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And many more after the US soldiers started killing innocent civilians and getting killed themselves by the Vietnamese.

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I appreciate your long post and the information posted but we need to be truthful to ourselves. Nobody supports crimes and mass killings from whatever side they come from and in the Gaza war the IDF has killed many more innocent civilians than Hamas. I don't try to make comparisons between who is the most lethal but crimes against humanity and war crimes have been commited by both sides. Israel has been condemned so many times I have lost count how many countries have turned against them. University students know this and everyone else knows it, unless you are really one sided.

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Some students have been arrested but most have been released. I wonder if the cops understand what is going on and if they agree to with arresting students and agree with what's happening in the middle east. I am sure some of them will probably hold the same views as the protests.

Quote: The move comes after Niger's military rulers ordered the US to withdraw troops who had been countering Islamic insurgents in the region.
 
Russian forces were present at the base in Niger's capital Niamey, but were not mingling with American troops, US officials told the Reuters news agency.
Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin said the Russians posed no "risk" to US forces.
 
"The Russians are in a separate compound and don't have access to US forces or access to our equipment," Mr Austin told journalists in Honolulu, Hawaii.
"I'm always focused on the safety and protection of our troops... But right now, I don't see a significant issue here in terms of our force protection," the defence secretary added.

Niger is in Africa's Sahel region, which is considered the new global epicentre of the Islamic State group.

The US has relied on the country as its primary base for monitoring regional jihadist activity, but its relations with the country's ruling military regime have deteriorated since it condemned last year's coup.

In turn, Niger has turned to Russia for assistance fighting Islamist insurgents in the south of the country.

The Russians deployed to Airbase 101 at Niger's international airport in Niamey are said to be military trainers.

They are said to be occupying a wing close to a contingent of US troops.

According to Reuters, earlier this year officials in Niger told the US that about 60 Russian troops would be deployed to the country. It is unclear how accurate that figure is today.

It is also unclear how many American troops remain at Airbase 101.

Most of the US troops in Niger are said to be at a drone base in the central city of Agadez, some 750km (460 miles) north-east of Niamey.
Relations between the US and Russia have been deteriorating sharply since President Vladimir Putin launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, with the US leading Western efforts to supply weapons to the Ukrainians.

But Paul Melly, West Africa analyst at the Chatham House think tank, says he sees no prospect of confrontation between the US and Russian troops.
Mr Melly told the BBC the Americans had tried hard to remain in Niger, but that the country's military leadership had rebuffed their attempts to link their security assistance to a timetable to return to civilian rule.

"For the junta, the attraction of the Russians is that they make no demands about governance and democratic rules," Mr Melly said.

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The US and its allies have been forced to move troops out of a number of African countries following coups that brought to power groups eager to distance themselves from Western governments.
 
In addition to the impending departure from Niger, US troops have also left Chad in recent days, while French forces have been kicked out of Mali and Burkina Faso.

At the same time, Russia is seeking to strengthen relations with African nations, pitching Moscow as a friendly country with no colonial baggage in the continent.

(05-03-2024, 05:03 PM)Blaine91555 Wrote: @Notran
In case it got past you, this topic is about Columbia University. The groups involved are small and the NYPD pointed out today that the phony protests are funded and orchestrated by outside forces. The students are just joining in the cause du jour.

Calling for the elimination of Israel is not a peace movement nor even remotely like the Peace Movement in the 60s-70s.

Do you personally agree with Hamas and its goals? Eliminate Israel and then the entire Western World if they don't join radical Islam?

(05-03-2024, 06:19 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: My stepfather served early on in Vietnam, I joined the service right after the war.

I take service seriously.  It is duty, honor, country.

You have a right to mock, disparage veterans all you want, I will just not engage.  The site is too new for me to get booted.

(05-03-2024, 04:33 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Thats the point it shows how these protests are roundly despised on campus, it's why the protests are rarely more than 1 to 2% of the university's student body population. 

The vast majority don't give a damn one way or the other, they are too wrapped up in thier own lives. REALITY

(05-05-2024, 04:00 AM)Notran Wrote: The students are part of the anti-war movement ...

(05-05-2024, 04:00 AM)Notran Wrote: Hi Blaine,

I don't agree with Hamas at all when they kill civilians just as I don't agree with IDF when they do exactly the same to civilians citing the danger by Hamas. Both have commited hideous crimes.

The students are part of the anti-war movement which includes many who aren't students. I understand it's a usual tactic to name them anarchists and communists but it always happened in the history of the anti-war movement. What students want is the end of the war.